stusser
2731
This is really a meaningless metric, looking at the heat output from the vent. What actually matters is how much power it uses, because that directly impacts how much heat it adds to the environment regardless of vent size and fan CFM.
We know the PS5 PSU is 350w, and we know the XSX is supposed to “use up to 315w”, so they’re roughly comparable. Would be nice if someone would plug a kill-a-watt into the PS5, or let us know the XSX’s PSU wattage, but c’est la vie.
Anyway, even that stuff is only of academic interest. What really matters is how the consoles perform and how much noise they make when idle and (only if egregious) under load.
From the interview posted in the Microsoft buys Bethesda thread between Kotaku’s Stephen Totilo and Microsoft’s Phil Spencer:
Damn it. Another generation of having to invert Y manually in every damn game. The 360 was so forward-thinking in terms of those little things. The 360 also did music streaming from your PC the best too.
I like it. Using the One X to equalize the naming scheme with Playstation. It’s arbitrary, but it makes things very convenient.
stusser
2735
Smart, no Xbox 5C. Ain’t nobody want that ghetto-ass 5C.
I will colloquially begin calling the PS5 the PS7 to account for the PSX, and PS4 Pro. Or maybe the PS11 to include the slim revisions.
Ars Technica said they used one and got ~190 watts when playing a ‘next gen’ game. That’s pretty much the same as the One X.
stusser
2738
Yes typical usage is much lower than peak.
I think the point of that test was to respond to the goobers who had latched onto the whole “omg the Series X is going to melt! It so hot!” thing recently, in response to “reports” about how how it got.
Timex
2740
I think that all the recent reports thus far have suggested that the XSX’s cooling works very well.
KevinC
2741
I should hope MS has some scars from the RROD days and built accordingly. Of course, my Elite 2 controller broke in a common way after a few month’s light use so maybe I shouldn’t expect too much from these clowns.
They did recently extend the warranty on the Elite 2 from 90 days to 1 year so you should be able to get it fixed now.
kerzain
2743
Too bad my Elite 1 fucking fell apart and they don’t give two shits about that one. Clowns is right, such horrible hardware makers.
More nerdy Digital Foundry Series X stuff. Today Thermals and power usage.
@forgeforsaken and @Alistair can relax. They won’t heat their flat with the console.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-xbox-series-x-power-consumption-and-heat-analysis
The written form of @Jason_Becker 's video. 2 takeaways:
Starting with the industrial design, there is a quiet revolution in design here, with the emphasis on the word ‘quiet’. Series X is quiet to the point where breaking out the noise meter is a pointless exercise because the console’s acoustics merge into the background noise of my living room and office. It’s essentially on par with Xbox One X - and perhaps even better - which I’d rate as the current gold standard in console design. Series X is more power-hungry, but the revised form factor ensures that noise is simply not an issue.
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You can see that the metal sandwich core of processor and southbridge boards are the centre of heat and a 48-49c skin temperature on the console is the result: it feels warm to the touch but not hot. The bottom of the unit actually feels cold to the touch, especially around the mostly dormant optical drive, which is essentially at room temperature. The unit is designed to funnel in cool air from the base, take it through the console, then propel it out of the top - and that’s where you find the ultimate heat centre for the console, lighting up in spectacular style on the thermal camera. Here, I noted a maximum of 62c - hotter than any console I’ve tested before, which is not surprising as this is the most powerful console I’ve tested. Put your hand above the console and you can feel the heat escape. In common with any console really, you do need to ensure that hot air can escape, so keeping Series X in an enclosed space is not a good idea.
You can definitely feel the heat escape but I’m sure the reports of using Series X to ‘heat your flat’ are tongue-in-cheek observations because we can tell from the watt meter that our peak power consumption is around 210 watts. There’s an incremental increase in heat output compared to Xbox One X, but what we’re seeing here is nothing compared to something like a high-end PC - an RTX 3080 will easily pull 320W from the mains without factoring in the rest of the PC it is attached too. And as for the 1TB Seagate storage card getting uncomfortably hot, I tested this by copying data on and off the card for 20 minutes and noted a warm-to-the-touch maximum of 49c - again, nothing to worry about. Transfer times also remained consistent, meaning that the card was not overheating to the point where performance throttled.
All good.
Well, my Xbox One just decided to call it quits after six years of dutiful service. I wasn’t planning on getting a replacement so quickly and the Series X has been sold out over here for weeks, but I got lucky and pounced when one retailer allowed pre orders again for just a few minutes.
I must say I’m most intrigued about the reported 60fps on Fallout 4, so I’ll be working on a mod list for a new playthrough while I wait for delivery.
I’ve had 3 break and it pisses me off. Not sure if you saw the class action lawsuit regarding these fwiw.
Congrats on getting a pre-order in! I’m eagerly awaiting mine as well. My XB1 has been giving me trouble over a year because of a failing internal hard drive. As long as I play games and apps from the external SSD I have connected to it, everything runs fine, but there’s certain apps my XB1 doesn’t allow to transfer to the external drive, like the OneGuide app for viewing liveTV (with a 30 minute delay), so every once in a while I have to do a fresh repair of the install.
KevinC
2749
Holy shit, THANK you! I loved the controller but it broke so quickly, even with light use. The problem for me is that “light use” didn’t really start until after the ridiculously short 90-day warranty period had already expired. Having a 90-day warranty on a controller that costs almost 200 bucks is just absurd. I felt robbed, honestly.
In any case, thanks to your heads up I went back to the Microsoft site and was able to get the warranty now.
This looks pretty neat, described as a physics based puzzler. Coming to XB1/S/X through Game Pass in December. One of those games where it looks like the concept art come to life.
