Alistair
1887
All it needs is feet. Are feet. Presumably they thought of that though.
Itās probably not removable because they didnāt want people taking the stand off and then setting it upright so that all the intake holes were blocked.
That would make sense, I imagine the Xbox team is deeply paranoid about heat issues.
Is the GPU actually less powerful or is that just conjecture? I know the XBSS has less memory, which definitely makes sense why XB1X enhancements might not work.
Menzo
1891
Ding ding! I gotta think thatās the reality of it. Because you know thatās what people would do. Theyād take that stand off, lose it, then tip it on its side and boom, dead Xbox, resulting in long CS calls and lots of crying.
The Xbox One X has 12GB of DDR5 at 326GB/s bandwidth
XSS has 10GB of RAM, 8GB of which is at 244GB/s bandwidth
Xbox One X GPU is 6 terfalops, 40 compute units, 1.1Ghz. Itās basically a beefed up version of the Xbox One GPU.
XSS GPU has 4 terfalops. 20 compute units, and 1.55GHz. But, again, itās a brand-new architecture, and a lot more advanced than the Xbone/XboneX. (XSX is 12.4 teraflops).
The XSS CPU is waaaaaay more powerful than the XboneX CPU. Itās not even close. Storage speeds and IO are also light years ahead.
Eh, itās a bit squishy as a matter of declarative fact. One X is more TFLOPS, but is also the far less-efficient GCN 4th Gen architecture. Series S is fewer TFLOPS, but RDNA2 is far more efficient per FLOP.
One X had more and faster GDDR5 memory, Series S has less and slower GDDR6, but with the various enhancements of the next-gen āVelocity Architectureā.
And then youāve got the CPU, where the Series S is like a Ferrari, and the One X is like a hamster that fell asleep on itās wheel.
Yeah, donāt take the RAM speed on the XboneX to think the XSS is at a disadvantage. Remember, the entire point of the XboneX was for MS to push ā4Kā gaming. They probably needed it for 4K gaming, but for 1080p/1440p, you donāt.
Iāve seen the sentiment around since reveal that two specs are going to be a problem and it sounds like some devs are officially voicing their concerns.
TimJames
1896
Good to know about BC on the XSS. Iāll keep my One X around for Ninja Gaiden then.
Not that I planned to upgrade because thereād be no point for me, but the thought at least crossed my mind.
stusser
1897
The XSS GPU is substantially slower than the xboneX. The CPU and storage is ridiculously faster. But games primarily scale with the GPU.
Much less so at 1080p of course.
stusser
1899
With a fast GPU, itās less likely to be the bottleneck at lower resolution. The XSS is not a fast GPU. Itās slower than the xboneX, and thatās basically a RX580 in performance.
Paul_cze
1900
Do we really know this? Has anyone tested it in any way?
Since the TFLOP count is not comparable due to different architectures. Like when nVidia bragged about Ampere 3080 running 30 TFLOPs, but due to different architecture it is actually equal to 21 Turing TFLOPs.
stusser
1901
Itās extrapolation from RDNA1. 20CUs is really weak. Even if RDNA2 offers a 30% IPC improvement.
OK, thatās a little bit funny.
This needs to be officially confirmed but I have to believe the 2 GB thatās substantially slower is set aside for the OS and isnāt for games and certainly not meant at all for graphics.
These comments from devs so far look like people who donāt actually have the machine and are making assumptions.
DaveLong
1904
Geeā¦ someone said thatās usually a problem earlier in this thread.
This is no surprise.
Apologies, I didnāt realize you had previously posted the info.
Rock8man
1906
One thing I learned during the PS3 era is that developers will complain, but theyāll still sit down and do their jobs and somehow eek out impressive results, especially if theyāre good programmers.
