David2
3031
Well ive played it 3 times to complition, so I must be close to 1% of that report. Im elite! :)
Hotfreak
3032
I’m sorry; my last post sounded more negative than intended. I did really enjoy PP. I’m not going to play it again because of the slog at the end. It’s a good, fun game, though. And I found the action point system to be liberating in comparison. I still think XCOM 2 is the better of the two games.
I loaded the new LW mod up to try. I really enjoyed WotC and have been thinking about a replay recently but wanted something a bit different so this looks good to me. I’ve never played a version of LW before so why not?
I enjoy the journey more than the destination is these games and I always wanted more stuff in XCOM2 so this seems good. That said, it was about a 3 gig download and all the extra stuff seem to be causing the game’s performance to take a hit compared to vanilla.
Yeah, that’s pretty much why I have yet to finish a campaign in 3 attempts. The DLC makes it even worse. I appreciate the theory of having the enemies have bases with attack ranges and such instead of XCOM’s scripted every X days mission generation, but the implementation there just resulted in a ton of repetitive (but often unavoidable) missions in the same maps against largely the same enemies.
Fardaza
3035
Steam says I have 1,200 hours in XCOM2 (and 1,800 in XCom:EW). Obviously, it is one of my favorite games of all-time. I tried LW once, but the game seemed to be moving nowhere. It seemed like LW took too long for anything to really develop. Balasarius said he doesn’t want a single campaign to last 200 hours. I’m definitely with him on that one! I love the game, but I like to start a new war, fret over each decision, watch my troops grow in power, die a little when one of my troops goes down, and just enjoy the process. Then I start over and do it again! The last 3 or 4 times I’ve played, I don’t even do the last battle. I really dislike the way that battle plays out. I just delete the saves and start from the beginning.
Welcome to the forums!
So far I’m trying to get used to the infiltration mechanic of LW which it totally different from vanilla. At game start, I had 3 missions queued up at the same time (I just finished one of them). The combination of having multiple missions simultaneously and infiltration really stresses your troop resources. I’m getting a low troop warning now. I’m getting warnings for low troops, low supply (I bought an engineer to clear rooms) and no supply income, lol.
The new classes and items look interesting but I’ve had no time to try anything new out yet. The psi changes look interesting too. Psi was horrible in vanilla WotC. With a longer campaign I can see how they’d be much more important.
Welcome!
I’m with you on Long War 2. It was a lot of work and very slow progress. I couldn’t get into it. And XCOM reboot is one of my favorite set of games in the last 15 years as well.
The hilarious thing about Long War is that, maybe new-Xcom isn’t perfect (narrator: it is), but making it LONGER? No one asked for this! Maybe other changes could improve Xcom (narrator: they couldn’t), but why this one?
Mods can have their place, but this one is so weird to me.
LeeAbe
3039
Long War has been a popular Xcom mod for a decade. Lots of people love it and say it makes Xcom a better game.
Many people are saying it! You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
But I’m just saying that MOAR BATTLES THAT MEAN LESS seems like the opposite of what Xcom needs. (Which is, again, nothing, because it’s perfect, but I guess love is blind.)
LeeAbe
3041
I think you might be focusing too much on the title. It does a ton of things that make the game more in-depth, realistic, etc.
If they also make it more immersive and visually stunning, I might have to give it a shot!
Those things are not needed either.
Someone must want it, or they wouldn’t be spending years making the mod. Good for them, I guess.
LW certainly makes you use all your troops and wish you had more. I have about 30 so far and I’ve used all of them. I have no rookies left, they’ve all leveled up. In vanilla WotC I just had A and B teams and that was it.
There’s been a lot of skill changes and some new classes added. So far it has been a different experience, which is what I was looking for. Also, from what I’ve read, you can’t really take your time to win in LWotC or you’ll get crushed. So, the name may be a bit misleading, I’m not sure yet.
Jinsai
3046
I replayed XCOM2: WotC again a few weeks ago. I still think it is one of the best games I have ever played (if not THE best). Deep, engaging, highly polished.
Canuck
3047
Is there any sense in playing regular Xcom2? I’m sure they’re both good but I don’t have the time to invest in two different games.
as opposed to War of the Chosen? Nah. Just play War of the Chosen
My take would be after playing the campaign thru several times both ways there’s no way I’d ever play it again w/o WOTC. For my money it finishes the game.
So, I gave up on LW for WotC. It’s just too much on rails. You have to do everything just right within a certain timeframe or you get crushed. I was hoping a longer game would provide a bit more freedom but apparently not. On top of that, it’s just not as much fun to me as normal WotC. So, it’s both fiddley and boring. A bad combo.
I started a new normal WotC campaign and I am just as riveted by it this time around as I was before. I have to say, this is probably my favorite game ever. I’m running with Grimy’s Loot Mod this time and you can find some crazy stuff. I just killed my second chosen. Fun times.
Mods often in my experience are about making a game harder not more interesting. LW leaned into that further still by also living up to its name and making a campaign that was already long a lot longer. Hum, yeah.
As for the base game, it’s in my top games I’ve played at just under 500 hours. And while I don’t know what the threshold is, there’s a point where this thread gets bumped often enough that triggers me to go for another run and damn if it’s not fun all over again
This latest bump almost did it, but I’m in the middle of a Hegemony III campaign I’d really like to finish, but very close.
