XCOM: Enemy Unknown

Arbit · 2012-10-29T19:01:50.000Z

Give heavies scopes
Use their rockets to remove cover as well as damage enemies
Use a second heavy with bullet swarm to kill the exposed and weakened enemies

With the increased crit chance due to being in the open and the +33% damage from a shredder rocket, pretty much anything will go down with the next shot. Since they leave weakened enemies with no cover, they’re great for letting rookies get kills.

It’s all about scouting and using terrain so your heavy will be in rocket range when the aliens show up.

habibi · 2012-10-29T19:02:49.000Z

Do you know what a smoke grenade do? I’m not sure if it is use to blind enemy or use for my troop to hide in. It definitely doesn’t cause any inconvenience to the enemy. I can’t understand how it gives any tactical advantage.

Also, as to sniper being too powerful, if they patch sniper to remove second sight, will people scream??? :)

ElGuapo · 2012-10-29T19:14:02.000Z

Is there a plasma shotgun? I.e. is there anything better than a laser scatter gun?

Jason_Townsend · 2012-10-29T19:15:21.000Z

Oh, right, per the prior discussion on heavy effectiveness, implied was “they all had scopes.” I suppose that’s not a given.

ElGuapo:

Is there a plasma shotgun? I.e. is there anything better than a laser scatter gun?

Alloy Cannon. Plasma tech tier, though it’s a projectile weapon rather than green energy.

ElGuapo · 2012-10-29T19:20:32.000Z

Hugin:

There’s a bug in the game where if an enemy is killed by overwatch fire during their “reveal” animation, they’ll occasionally register as a “ghost” sighted enemy, at the location they would have taken up if they hadn’t died while moving.

That exact thing happened to me when my squad opened up on some revealed Thin Men. Three were revealed, two were killed and one badly wounded. He retreated to cover and I lost track of him. There were still 2 nonexistent red heads on the screen.

Hugin · 2012-10-29T19:53:53.000Z

habibi:

Do you know what a smoke grenade do? I’m not sure if it is use to blind enemy or use for my troop to hide in. It definitely doesn’t cause any inconvenience to the enemy. I can’t understand how it gives any tactical advantage.

Also, as to sniper being too powerful, if they patch sniper to remove second sight, will people scream??? :)

Smoke grenade gives a +20 defense bonus to anything inside the smoke cloud, friendly or enemy. You should put the cloud sphere on your own guys, not on the enemy, and not between you and the enemy. The cloud will not affect the ability of units inside the cloud to shoot at things outside the cloud.

The later upgrade, Dense Smoke, increases the size of the cloud, and adds an additional +20 defense, or +40 overall.

habibi · 2012-10-30T05:52:49.000Z

Thanks for the pro tip on the smoke grenade. I stupidly threw it at the enemy thinking it will blind them or something!

Mysterio · 2012-10-30T11:29:52.000Z

Info on upcoming patch:

XCOM: Enemy Unknown 2nd Patch update

Thanks for all the feedback you guys have provided here in the XCOM forums. We here at 2k Games and Firaxis have been listening to your comments and are preparing a patch that will be releasing soon on all skus. Exact date is TBD, but we will let you know as soon as we get word.

Here are a list of changes that will be included in the patch.

Major Fixes

• Abductor roof visibility problems resolved

• Interception game hang issues resolved
o If two interceptors are sent after UFO
o If Skyranger is returning from combat after an Interceptor was already deployed

• SHIV inaccessible issues resolved

• AI Alien Activity Hang resolution

• Multiplayer connectivity optimization

Other Fixes

• TempleShip optimization: All Soldiers properly spawn when restarting the mission after clearing the second room of TempleShip

• Snapshot penalty should no longer apply when Overwatching without first moving.

• Easy Difficulty is now easier.

Again, thanks for all the feedback and for being super patient as we prepare each patch for release. We are always monitoring the forums for issues and will post as soon as we get official updates.

rezaf · 2012-10-30T11:36:40.000Z

No fix for the teleporting enemies?
That’s disappointing.
They appearently haven’t been listening to the comments THAT closely, after all.

rezaf

Stepsongrapes · 2012-10-30T11:59:54.000Z

2nd patch:

If two interceptors are sent after UFO

Is this referring to sequentially sending two interceptors? I didn’t think it was possible to intercept with more than one at a time.

Hugin · 2012-10-30T12:01:14.000Z

rezaf:

No fix for the teleporting enemies?
That’s disappointing.
They appearently haven’t been listening to the comments THAT closely, after all.

rezaf

Did you wake up on the dick side of the bed this morning?

Did they say “You know, after reviewing the comments, we decided to completely ignore the teleporting enemies issue. We’re not even gonna try to fix it, ever. Screw you guys.”

Did they say “Whelp, now we’ve fixed everything, and everyone should be happy, because there are no other issues with the game!”?

Let’s say they had the time and whatever else to fix the teleporting enemies issue, but in order to do that they had to let the roof visibility issue slide, or the SHIV bug slide for this patch. What would you say then?

“WHAT? monicle popping They didn’t fix the horrible roof visibility issue that so many people complained about? SHIVS are STILL broken? SO much for listening to the community!”

Jesus.

scharmers · 2012-10-30T12:34:26.000Z

Haters gonna hate.

rezaf · 2012-10-30T12:35:39.000Z

Heh, chill out Hugin.
It is a pretty common complaint on the official forums, so at least mentioning it, even in a “we’re still working on…” way would have been kinda neat.

That said, your reply was far more dickish than mine, so it must’ve been you that woke up on that side of the bed.

rezaf

Major_Malphunktion · 2012-10-30T12:54:31.000Z

Hugin:

Did you wake up on the dick side of the bed this morning?

Did they say “You know, after reviewing the comments, we decided to completely ignore the teleporting enemies issue. We’re not even gonna try to fix it, ever. Screw you guys.”

Did they say “Whelp, now we’ve fixed everything, and everyone should be happy, because there are no other issues with the game!”?

Let’s say they had the time and whatever else to fix the teleporting enemies issue, but in order to do that they had to let the roof visibility issue slide, or the SHIV bug slide for this patch. What would you say then?

“WHAT? monicle popping They didn’t fix the horrible roof visibility issue that so many people complained about? SHIVS are STILL broken? SO much for listening to the community!”

Jesus.

As a dev I thank you. You just said what I want to blurt out on the interwebs almost every day.

people:You didn’t fix THIS!

me:…but but…we have over 400 bugs fixed in the last 4 weeks…

people:BUT NOT THIS? You guys suck…derp derp.

This is why the last 3 minutes of Jay and Silent Bob are my favorite movie scene ever.

forgeforsaken · 2012-10-30T12:58:38.000Z

rezaf:

Heh, chill out Hugin.
It is a pretty common complaint on the official forums, so at least mentioning it, even in a “we’re still working on…” way would have been kinda neat.

That said, your reply was far more dickish than mine, so it must’ve been you that woke up on that side of the bed.

rezaf

No, you’re just a troll.

rezaf · 2012-10-30T13:01:59.000Z

As a troll, I’m obviously unable to keep up with your guys polite, considerate and well articulated replies (you sure know how to make an elephant out of a fly), so I have nothing else to say.

rezaf

scharmers · 2012-10-30T13:09:38.000Z

rezaf:

so I have nothing else to say.

rezaf

YOUR BALL IS CALLING YOU

IT WANTS TO GO HOME

Inverarity · 2012-10-30T15:18:30.000Z

The thing about the teleporting aliens is, there have been some people claiming it isn’t a bug (no one official from 2K, but several posters, here and on the xcom forums). So it’s understandable (to me at least) that not seeing it listed would cause someone to question whether it’s being addressed at all. In fact, the whole list is rather small considering it’s been several weeks since the game was released and the list of known, repeatable bugs is far longer. A simple “here is a list of some, but not all changes” in the 2K post would have left it open-ended and up for less scrutiny.

kedaha · 2012-10-30T15:30:45.000Z

Major Malphunktion:

As a dev I thank you. You just said what I want to blurt out on the interwebs almost every day.

people:You didn’t fix THIS!

me:…but but…we have over 400 bugs fixed in the last 4 weeks…

people:BUT NOT THIS? You guys suck…derp derp.

This is why the last 3 minutes of Jay and Silent Bob are my favorite movie scene ever.

Because it’s the customer’s fault that a game is released with bugs? I’m not really getting your point, it seems to be that as long as a company is doing some work on fixing a broken product anyone who complains is a troll or whatever?

Papageno · 2012-10-30T17:37:52.000Z

By “teleporting aliens” are you referring to them suddenly appearing right next to you? I had that happen with a cyberdisc and his repair drone friend, just one step below my guys on the terrain, literally in an adjacent square.