2017: Whither Democrats?

The ACA would never have happened without the good offices of Representative Pelosi of California. Just saying.

Just listen to the word. Pelosi. Pelosi. Nothing good can come of that.

Which is both a plus and a minus! It was an improvement on the status quo, but far to timid to be the actual change we need.

Yet it got derided as extremist socialism run amok. If that is how any legislative agenda is going to be portrayed, at some point you need to just say ‘fuck it’ and propose actual politically left agendas.

Except it was in the Senate that the ACA lost some of its sizzle – the misbegotten attempt to get Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins on board, became a holding effort to keep Ben Nelson in Nebraska from bolting at the last second… and also good ol’ Joe Lieberman, who was the guy who insisted on removing the public option.

Pelosi’s House version of the bill, which passed 220-215, contained a sort-of public option at least.

I gather Max Baucus wasn’t too fond of the public option either, not-so-coincidentally because he’d gotten a lot of bribes^H^H^H errr, campaign contributions from health insurance companies.

If Obama could clone himself and do a rally on election eve in every senate district up this year, Democrats would win it easily.

People Republican voters are fucking stupid.

“Immigration is the top issue.”


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And guess who’s fearmongering about the caravan of eleventy billion immigrants mixed with ISIS operatives moving towards the US border. Sounds like they’re going to get there right around election day. Timing is weird, huh?

Is this actually true?

I liked him as a president, but under his watch Democrats basically lost all political power. Fair or not, his legacy is going to be linked to the (hopefully short) fall of the Democratic party and rise of Trump.

For whatever reason Obama just does not seem effective at electing other Democrats.

What I meant was that he’d boost turnout, and I believe that’s what this election is all about. Even more than usual.

I think so. It seems most prior presidents become more popular after a few years out of office. Nostalgia and rose tinted glasses.

Also, they are seen as more authentic, because they are not campaigning for themselves anymore (just their legacy).

Look at G.W. Bush. The left almost doesn’t hate him anymore.

Although, I guess this is heavily influenced by expectations. Trump voters probably like Bush less because he wasn’t a fan of Trump, but it’s hard to account for bat shit crazy.

BECAUSE THEIR HATE IS WEAK

Not to mention the supposed “rioting in the streets” of California cities over the last couple of days that seems only to exist in Trump’s brain.

This is a view that basically ignores historical trends. The party in the WH nearly always gets pounded in the midterms, and all Presidents lose coattails the longer they’re in power, and the same party holding the WH for 3 consecutive terms is pretty unusual too.

“We go high.”

Obama was the most-requested and most-frequently appearing Democrat at fundraisers and election rallies for other candidates --as a 2-year junior senator – in 2006. That seemed to work out pretty well.

Dubya almost had me at “that was some weird shit” but then lost me again with the Kavanaugh endorsement.

But that was before he destroyed America