Hell. Yes.
For the people who didn’t like Avatar, did you see it in a theater or on a TV? I can’t think of any movie for which the difference would be more stark.
I loved the first movie, and I’ve been eagerly awaiting the sequels since then.
IMAX. I won’t deny it was visually impressive, but the writing was unbelievably bad. Well, it would have been unbelievable if I hadn’t been primed by Titanic.
I own this movie. I don’t mind admitting, again, I watch it about once a year. I would like a sequel, but I really, really want them to start showing some indication that they are focusing on more than visuals, like more than here now we have the Na’vi in the water with what looks like a Plesiosaur. I really, really hope now that they have the look down they are going for more.
I was in the theater opening night, full 3d, etc. Yes, the movie was visually stunning, but the writing was tremendously stupid. Not to mention it was a complete rip off of Ursula K. Le Guin’s Vaster than Empires and More Slow and The Word for World is Forest, but that’s a debate for another time.
I saw it in the theater in 2D. And not a single moment of it stuck with me.
I saw it in the theater with full 3D mode enabled. I was bored out of my fucking mind. And by the time the idiotic mech knife fight ensued I was punching myself in the face for wasting money on this tripe.
Navi River Journey is terrible.
In sure you meant the other one, but you forgot that Navi River Journey exists because it’s that bad.
This. For me it broke down at the end when the film pretends that the Na’vi have won this big victory and they “escort” the bad guys off the planet. Given the power disparity involved, and that the Corporation can literally nuke the entire Na’vi civilization from orbit if they want that unobtanium enough (which - by every evidence in the film - they do) makes the entire ending absurd. The entire premise is basically “Little Big Horn resulted in the permanent defeat of the White settlers”.
I’m willing to give a sequel a chance, though, if the story doesn’t sound nonsensical.
And most significantly, Poul Anderson’s Call Me Joe.
I’ll have to look into that one!
Its been pretty well established that the concept and story line used in Avatar is not unique and has been used in some form for centuries. Of course that is the case with pretty much everything that comes out of Hollywood. If it isnt a direct reboot, is a rehash of a common story. There is very little that is unique that comes out anymore. You know what else is not unique. People complaining about it incessantly. After 10 years of hearing the same old complaint, I cant figure out whats worse, the retreaded plot line or the constant bitching about it.
You made me peruse the top 400 posts in this thread. Jesus Christ, the movie subforum used to be so hostile! It was like a Star Wars thread in here. (And no, by post 400, the movie had not been released yet. People were just arguing about the tech, about Titanic, @kerzain masterfully trolled the thread for a while by proclaiming all Pixar movies to be the same, and about whether “Where the Wild Things are” was going to be a good movie).
it was!
Yep, that’s me, “Masterful.”
It really is amazing that it wasn’t until post #673 that someone actually saw the movie! And it’s not like the thread was percolating for years. It fired up in June 2009 and the movie came out in December.
What’s worse is the paint-by-numbers execution of its ideas, which is WHY the root ideas themselves get so much scrutiny. If you’re going to blatantly steal ideas, at least execute them well, like Terminator did.
I did mean Flight of Passage but there is nothing wrong with the River ride. It’s like all the other story book kind of rides, Pooh, Peter Pan, Small World.
If it’s a rip of anything, it’s basically history. I mean pick a native group; there you go.
The problem for me with sequels for this movie is the original never really stuck with me in the first place. I liked the 3D at the time, but I couldn’t tell you the name of any characters in it. I only really remember the name of the alien race. That’s it. It just didn’t really leave a mark.
I mean, it’s not like there were years of Avatar toys that just kept on coming like Star Wars or Marvel, etc.
The Avatar toys at Disney World, i mean the stuff in general, is pretty awesome. Their jewelry has been around for years as well, inspired by that world.
But granted, there were no plastic lightsabers in all the now defunct toy store shelves.