Bond. A Daniel Craig Bond. 2021. This Is No Time To Die.

How about you read the article first? There is ZERO indication that they are going to make the change permanent, though I can’t understand why you’d have a problem if they did.

007 is a position, not a person, nor an actor. It’s like complaining that there’s a black President of the USA in some movie.

It’s getting more and more expensive for Craig to play Bond. At some point they’re going to have to find someone new. He keeps saying that each new film is his last as Bond, but the producers throw ever-increasing amounts of money at him to change his mind.

Yeah, I totally understand that. It does sort of seem like he needs them as much as they need him though.

I doubt it. I mean, it would be great if they committed to the new casting and had the next few 007 movies continue with Lynch, but I suspect they won’t have the gumption to stick to it. Despite the publicity they’re getting now, Lynch isn’t well known enough to carry the series forward. They’ll just reboot again and have a new male actor play Bond after Craig.

Maybe? If you’re getting $30 million for a movie, you don’t really need anyone. I do wonder what sort of scripts are coming across his desk. I doubt anyone else will pay him that much.

Isn’t 007 just a code name for an agent? Why can’t 007 be a woman, unless you are saying there is some sort of actual rule where like odd numbered agents are men and even numbered agents are women, I suppose. Is that a thing? Is that what you are upset about, they made an odd-numbered agent a female?

Let’s see how Knives Out does. That looks interesting, but I rarely see other films he is in that do and the box office usually bears that out, too.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?view=Actor&id=danielcraig.htm

I suspect conversations around that one will be positioned (for better or worse) as more of a measure of Rian Johnson’s future post-Star Wars than Craig’s talent.

True. It’s more of an ensemble cast of course. That also means he doesn’t want to be the guy that let the picture down though.

Given it’s James Bond, the odds are high that fem-007 ends up dead as a doornail before the movie’s over. To give James “motivation” dontchaknow.

Is this the one that Phoebe Waller-Bridge is working on? Maybe they could surprise us.

“How did you get to be the new 007?”
“He fucked me in the ass!” Stares right at camera

I for one would welcome PWB writing ALL the next installments of big movie franchises.

That makes two of us. I’d be fully on board with her as the next Bond. Or next anything, really.

At first I thought there was no way they could make Bond a female.

And this is true if you hold to the view that Bond, the franchise (not the role of spy/assassin) is basically a male fantasy of being cold, calculating, irresistible to women, unconcerned by emotional baggage or indeed any baggage or mundane responsibilities (like am mortgage,) and also being the hero (or anti hero, but still more hero than anything, as he does save the world/the government every so often.)

If Bond is indeed a male fantasy, then making Bond a female goes against ALL of that, and will ruffle some feathers.

However, if Bond is seen more seriously as a film franchise about secret agents who are spies and assassins (to my knowledge, real spy work is very subtle and dry and mostly boring as fuck. James Bond types as per the movies are apparently terrible candidates, and the preferred type, for Mi5 recruitment at least - and therefore one assumes Mi6, is quiet, studious, observant, intelligent and physically utterly unremarkable, people who you see and never ever notice) or as a feel good film about beating the Soviets/evil masterminds/terrorists/North Koreans/China (there was one movie where he averted a war with China iirc) etc etc, then yeah, a female agent would be just as good as a male.

Also, one must remember that films etc are cultural artifacts/expressions, and therefore it would actually be strange to NOT have some sort of SJW etc (whatever you want to call it) references inside.

For my money, I am actually much more interested in the new Bond because of it being a female and a minority, but I am very worried this is an exercise in box ticking and virtue signalling, and that the character won’t be treated with the respect (although using respect with regards to Bond…perhaps not quite the right word, especially considering how farcical the Roger Moore films were) the character deserves.

Will she end up being a damsel in distress that Bond saves, or, shock horror twist, will she save Bond?

I have to say, I thought the most recent Bond was a bit of a damp squib. Casino Roytale remains the best of the Craig Bonds imho, and Eva Green’s character was strong and believable imho.

I hadn’t thought of her AS bond, but yes I’d 110% accept that.

Your post reminds me that in early drafts of the Terminator, Cameron originally planned for the robot to be as average and bland as possible, so that it could get in close and kill targets without anyone really paying attention to it. In fact, Lance Henrikson was going to play that version! I would have liked to have seen that.

But yeah, Bond doesn’t make any sense as any kind of secret agent or spy. I like what they did with him in the Craig movies - there’s little pretense that Bond is anything but a killer. M calls him a blunt force object that isn’t paid to think. I like that one of the higher ups likely recognized Bond’s amorality and capacity for wanton destruction and thought, you know I could probably use a guy like that …

The whole concept of Bond is from the antebellum cold war world of Mad Men in sharp suits and old boy networks of casinos, yachts and helicopter pads scattered around the Alps or privately own castles or islands assassinating their targets with class. I’m not really sure that a female Bond really matches the aesthetic of the concept - yet today the concept itself is entirely outdated.

As long as she can shoot people in the balls, I’m in.

Once again: this actress is not playing Bond. This actress is playing the agent code-named 007. Daniel Craig is Bond.

I can nearly guarantee that she will die during the movie. We can all rest assured that the Broccoli family will make sure that James Bond remains white and male for the foreseeable future.

Let’s go back to freaking out about black mermaids and female superheroes.

Further evidence.

“Bond is male,” Barbara Broccoli told The Guardian last year. “He’s a male character. He was written as a male and I think he’ll probably stay as a male. And that’s fine. We don’t have to turn male characters into women. Let’s just create more female characters and make the story fit those female characters.”

Well, no, not technically, but for the entire franchise 007 has been the same as Bond. I do think this twist will end with her dying though.

I don’t quite think noting that the aesthetic of these silly movies has always had a strong male characteristic of chauvinism to them. I shouldn’t have to, but i guess you do, point out that i’m not saying this is a good thing, it’s just how it’s always been conceived as.

The problem with the franchise has always been modernizing it and at some point Bond ceased to be a Cold Player and became something like an International Man of Mystery hunting evil eccentric rich guys.

Frankly “Bond” today would almost certainly be Chinese and be spending his days in Almaty, Abu Dhabi, Shenzhen or Dar al Salaam assassinating and/or operating counterintelligence. That would be super interesting to see a movie about. But it won’t be made by a US or UK film company.