The only argument I’ve ever seen against this is that the added games are too much for a college schedule, except that somehow isn’t an issue in every other division. Cut an OOC game if it’s that important.
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If they are going to do a playoff, it should be like the tourney - all conference Champs and a handful of wild cards.
However, until they do that, if ever, I want the Rose Bowl to remain as is. It is not only the best bowl game, but the best football game of the year, at least to me. If I could watch only one game a year (College or Pro), that would be it.
And it should be a good game this year with Penn State playing USC.
But on Jan 2nd.
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If they are going to do a playoff, it should be like the tourney - all conference Champs and a handful of wild cards.
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I think all the P5 and the “best of the rest” conference champs plus two wild cards is perfect (and apologies if this is what you meant). Most years the Sun Belt, CUSA, MAC, etc are just bad and would result in some ugly football.
Thats pretty much how it would play out if they went with the Power 5 champs and 3 wild cards. Its very rare that mid major teams would put together a worthy season. I think WMU is an exception to that ,this season, as they did beat two Big Ten schools on the road . If there were an 8 team playoff they may have been able to sneak in. But as I said that is a very rare situation.
I will call bullshit on the whole “expanding the playoffs shouldnt be done because of the extra games teams would have to play” arguement. They have had no problem adding extra games by having conference championship games and regular seasons used to be 10 games. They could easily accommodate an 8 team playoff by making minor scheduling shifts. The other divisions do it with no problem and play as many as 4 games in various division tournaments.
The FCS playoffs work because those schools have basically nothing else to do. Anything remotely like a 4-round playoff at the top level would pretty much kill the bowl-game cash cow for all those 7-5 & 6-6 teams playing in things like the New Mexico Bowl.
Don’t get me wrong - I would not cry a bit if the New Mexico Bowl bit the dust. But ESPN invented all those bowl games to make money, and they aren’t going to give that up. Likewise, reducing the regular season would be opposed by both the big and the small schools. The OOC game most likely to be dropped would be one of the ‘free money for both schools’ ones.
I’m sure an 8-team playoff will come someday, but I would also be just as happy to go back to the pre-playoff days and just have the New Years bowl games as they were. Yeah, we’d be back to the “mythical national championship”. So what?
If I was dictator of football, I’d do it this way:
cut BCS to 74 teams, 7 conferences of 10+ 4 independents, service academies+ND. Only allowed to play each other. (the math didn’t work otherwise)
7 10-team conferences, 9 conf games. Champs get in
8th team- independent gets guaranteed this spot if they are in top 8, otherwise highest ranking non-conf team.
seeding done by computer.
1st round is home fields, first Sat after thanksgiving
semis are Jan 1st or Dec.31st, depending on NFL schedule, moved back a day if Jan.1st is Sunday
Finals are first monday after Jan.7th
I think if you go to an 8 team playoff you simply use 4 bowl games they currently exist. That would move 8 bowl teams out of bowls but honestly, who cares.
You could even play them before X-Mas, and leave the other games as is.
And I am not sure if you mean that FCS student football players aren’t worthy of worrying about anyway. So FCS schools are a waste of time?
No, I mean there are not dozens of bowl games needing to be filled by FCS schools. If an FCS school isn’t in the playoff, they have nothing else to do once the season ends.
We need an 8 team playoff.
You simply convert bowl games to play off games. Very small change that is mostly in what you call the game.
The reason this is railed against is because of the big money interests that run the bowl games. They have sold fans the concept of tradition for the simple reason of holding onto a cash cow. It has nothing to do with how it would possibly disadvantage the student athlete. The way that they take total financial advantage of college football student athletes makes any purported concern over the needs of the student athlete a complete joke.
We now have Wakeyleaks. A radio guy for Wake was fired by the current coach, got a job in Wake’s radio booth- turns out he was leaking game plans to the opposition as revenge.
Louisville was confirmed to have had the info (though again, you can’t blame any school for taking the info)
Why not?
Sure you can. It is wrong and they should have declined the info and reported it.
As long as you had absolutely nothing to do with the skullduggery yourself, profiting from it is fine.
Louisville’s coach is Bobby Petrino, blaming them is like blaming a sex addict for watching porn.
“you play to win the game”…
These schools are supposed to be about higher education and making responsible adults. To condone accepting of obviously stolen material and say it’s all about winning is pretty hypocritical.
In baseball the stealing of signs is part of the game. In football schools have been caught stealing the coaches signs to the offense/defense, that is why they do so much misdirection now. Practices are closed. Security is used to guard practices.
When you pay coaches the dollars they get paid, and schools play for the kind of money they are playing for, don’t be surprised when ethics take a back seat to winning.
And we don’t know if the material was stolen. The guy who passed it along could very well have been given the info by Wake’s coaches, he was after all the home team color man for the football broadcasts, an ex-Wake QB. He just wasn’t happy with the Wake staff apparently.