Dominions 5: Multiplayer Warriors of the Feint - 2018 Stabby-Stabby Edition

They are that long because it’s Play by Email, where a turn is sent every two or three days. 3 x 80 turns for a match that reaches late game = 240 days.

I’ve been traveling and away from any machine that I regularly use qt3 from. Should be back next Monday. Looks like Bluddy is out. That’s a solution too.

sorry, family emergency - i need to bow out

So is there space for one more in the qt3 dominions balance game or is it closed?

It’s on hold currently. I think there is space for one more though.

I would like that slot. Unless Pyrhic objects. We did talk a bit about his nation and I know at least a version of what he was thinking about.

Legowarrior - Machaka
Pyrhic - Na’ba
Evil Steve - Ind
Kelan - Abysia
Wahoo: Phaeacia Dark Ships
Strato - Vanarus

I think I would like a go round with Pythia. I may have to think a bit about a pretender. I’ll try and have something in by Friday?

That’s fine. We are taking it slow until @pyrhic is ready

I don’t mind at all.

Okay, so it looks like we will be back up to 7. If everyone can get your pretenders in by Sunday, I’ll get the game started.

Oh, I assume that since this is a friendly game, all agreements are binding?

Not playing, I know, but just so I understand: does this refer to diplomacy agreements made outside the game?

There is no diplomacy in the game. Not a single thing. You can send messages and items to other players in Game, but they won’t see anything until the next turn.

So, you basically need to talk to other players out of game.

Got it. Sounds better than a bad diplomacy model that can be abused, so I like it!

Some communities have put up MP rules to follow in the past. I am flexible, but there are some main ones that we should adhere to like:

Trades should be binding. For example, if you negotiate having someone forge you an item and send them gems, they are obligated to make it and send it to you. If they lose that mage or have an unforeseen circumstance that prevents them from carrying it out, they should at least send the gems/gold back.

NAPs (Non Aggression Pact) historically aren’t always binding, but break them and you will gain an unfavorable reputation for future games (I am totally fine with making NAPs binding). Normally you negotiate a NAP-3 or some number that determines the amount of turns after a person verbally breaking the agreement that no aggression should occur.

No trading and flooding another player’s magic item vault with useless items (I guess this has been a problem in the past for it to be included in many rules… maybe if the vault is full any items the player makes that turn disappear?)

I will see if I can find a recent list. Others may have them handy too and can post them.

For @Bluddy though, most games have unlimited discussion and diplomacy outside of the game between players usually via PM or email although Discord and other messaging programs are really convenient too. Once in a while, MP games are set up with specific diplomacy rules agreed upon by the players. Like absolutely no Diplomacy, or only in game messaging Diplomacy (which only allows you one set of messages per turn and causes many delays). But yeah, diplomacy can get very complex and interesting if you pursue it. Like, you can have this province, but I want x gold and you go to war with x player. Establishing allies and trading partners can be a key element in winning a game.

EDIT: There also used to be a case where you could fight and charm/enslave an independent unit and then copy its commands that allowed them to target enemy mages or commanders directly, which isn’t a normal part of the game. Was it part of Bogus’s crew? That was normally considered an exploit and part of MP rules that you couldn’t copy them to your own commanders…

So, all 4 missing pretenders will be ready by Sunday? I can’t wait to get started! Machaka for the win!

With the lull, I did book a quick overnight trip that is happening Sunday/Monday. I think I’ll make it if the turn timer is at 24hrs initially, but can you keep an eye on it and bump an extension for me if needed?

I can.

With a new revolutionized plan, and a totally unpredictable pretender, Naba is in!

Running a bit behind. I might try to get my stuff in tomorrow.

I’m in. Just missing one last player.

@legowarriorr - Machaka
@pyrhic - Na’ba
@Evil_Steve - Ind
@Kelan - Abysia
@wahoo - Phaeacia Dark Ships
@Strato - Vanarus
@dfs - Pythium

Maybe we’ll start the first turn sometime on Monday.