"Good Old Games"

This is such bad timing for this release though. They should have come out about 2 or 3 weeks ago, along with Elemental. Right now, I’m waiting for Civ 5. So the Age of Wonders games will just have to wait until next year.

First of all, against the AI, in any AOW you’re pretty much guaranteed to win if you do nothing silly. In #1, once you get your hero’s attack and defense stats maxed, and give him Life Draining, he can literally take out the entire enemy army in one go without ever being really at risk. Maybe if you were up against a human player using Incarnates or something, there might be a risk, but I never played #1 in MP. This actually sorta spoiled the campaign for me the first time I played it, because I let my hero get too powerful and the later scenarios just consisted of me running straight across the map towards the enemy commander, killing him, and ending the mission, over and over. This is only really possible because in #1, you don’t lose mobility in defensive fighting the way you do in #2 - #2 and SM make it possible to overwhelm even ultra-tanks with boatloads of immunities if you just have enough cannon fodder to throw at them. But in #1 you get those two counterattacks every single time an enemy unit attacks, and if you have life draining you’re making up for any damage you’re taking, and it just isn’t possible to find a way to lose if you’re doing it right.

#2’s wizards/heroes dichotomy doesn’t ruin the “heroes running around kicking ass” fun stuff. The heroes you recruit can have exactly the same effect as the commander did in #1, you just need to be sure to back them up with regular troops to be safe. The wizard ends up being just an afterthought - he’s a part of the scenery; he casts global spells and summons and as such he’s just infrastructure. The heroes are the ones out there doing all the interesting stuff.

Overall the combat balance in #2 and SM was much better than in #1.

Yep x2.

I tried a few years ago and had no trouble, but then at the time, my PC was 5 or 6 years old, so that could have been a factor in having no trouble.

The Wilderness Missions. Fun stuff.

Yeah, but you’re talking about leveling up your hero over multiple scenarios in the campaign. The campaign wasn’t playable in hotseat multiplayer, and that’s the only way I’ve played. So each time we created new heroes for our individual scenarios that we played. The game only shipped with 2 maps that could accommodate three human players and enough AI opponents. So we used to play those same 2 maps all the time. We won a couple of times, but we lost a few times too. We certainly never got to a point in those scenarios where our heroes were even close to having their attack or defense stats maxed. That’s probably only possible in the campaign, I’m guessing, where you can carry over your hero to other scenarios.

You’re right. I never played the game that way.

I can’t imagine having played AOW1 and never having played the campaign. It was a really good campaign.

Its up on Impulse as well - does anyone know if GOG version has been modified to run better in vista and win7?

Does anyone know of a list of games that used to be available on GoG.com? I’m trying to think of the games I meant to buy but kept putting it off to some other time.

Independence War 2
Heroes 3 complete
Gabriel Knight games

Those are the ones I can think of right now, but if there was a list somewhere, that would be ultra helpful.

WTF HAPPENED TO GOG?!?!?!?!! cries

For reference.

I can only help you with my purchases:

Directory of G:\Outsource\Bought software\Games\GoG Purchases

07/05/2010 21:08 <DIR> .
07/05/2010 21:08 <DIR> …
08/05/2010 14:45 <DIR> Advent Rising (GoG.com)
02/07/2010 21:28 <DIR> Another World 15th Year Anniversary (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 21:10 <DIR> Apache vs Havoc (GoG.com)
15/05/2010 18:26 <DIR> Aquanox (GoG.com)
25/06/2010 20:56 <DIR> Arx Fatalis (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 14:51 <DIR> Beyond Divinity (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 01:25 <DIR> Beyond Good & Evil (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 16:30 <DIR> Blake Stone - Aliens of Gold (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 16:29 <DIR> Blake Stone - Planet Strike (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:39 <DIR> Blood (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:58 <DIR> Blood 2 - The Chosen & Expansion (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 15:21 <DIR> Bloodrayne (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 17:29 <DIR> Bloodrayne 2 (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 17:42 <DIR> Caesar III (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 17:31 <DIR> Call to Power II (GoG.com)
17/10/2009 21:56 <DIR> Colin Mc Rae 2005 (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 21:14 <DIR> Comanche vs Hokum (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 08:40 <DIR> Commandos 2 & 3 (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 00:49 <DIR> Commandos Ammo Pack (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 12:49 <DIR> Constructor (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 21:21 <DIR> Creatures Exodus (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 21:19 <DIR> Creatures The Albian Years (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 21:22 <DIR> Creatures Village (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 12:49 <DIR> Disciples - Sacred Lands Gold (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 12:52 <DIR> Disciples 2 Gold (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 14:51 <DIR> Divine Divinity (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 16:27 <DIR> Duke Nukem - Manhattan Project (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 21:27 <DIR> Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 18:28 <DIR> Earth 2140 Trilogy (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 15:37 <DIR> Earth 2150 Trilogy (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 15:44 <DIR> Earth 2160 (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 21:28 <DIR> Earthworm Jim 1 & 2 (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 15:46 <DIR> Enclave (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 02:44 <DIR> Evil Genius (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 15:47 <DIR> Expendable (GoG.com)
17/10/2009 23:15 <DIR> Fallout Collection (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 17:23 <DIR> Fantasy Wars (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 21:43 <DIR> Freespace & Expansion (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 21:36 <DIR> Freespace 2 (GoG.com)
25/05/2010 02:51 <DIR> Gabriel Knight - Sins of the Fathers (GoG.com)
25/05/2010 02:50 <DIR> Gabriel Knight 2 - The Beast Within (GoG.com)
26/05/2010 00:22 <DIR> Gabriel Knight 3 - Blood of the Sacred Blood of the Damned (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:16 <DIR> Giants - Citizen Kabuto (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:22 <DIR> Gobliins Pack (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 15:53 <DIR> Gorky17 (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 00:30 <DIR> Gothic 2 Gold Edition (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 12:59 <DIR> Ground Control & Expansion (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:17 <DIR> Ground Control 2 - Operation Exodus Special Edition (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 14:56 <DIR> Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Complete (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:18 <DIR> Hostile Waters (GoG.com)
17/10/2009 19:58 <DIR> IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 15:58 <DIR> Imperial Glory (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 16:09 <DIR> Incoming & Incoming Forces (GoG.com)
26/05/2010 02:49 <DIR> Independance War Deluxe Edition (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:06 <DIR> Ishar Compilation (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 16:17 <DIR> Jack Orlando - Director’s Cut (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:09 <DIR> Jagged Alliance - Deadly Games (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:08 <DIR> Jagged Alliance (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:09 <DIR> Jagged Alliance 2 - Unfinished Business (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:25 <DIR> Jagged Alliance 2 (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:25 <DIR> Jagged Alliance 2 Wildfire (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:25 <DIR> Kingpin - Life of Crime (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 17:05 <DIR> King’s Bounty - The Legend (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 16:26 <DIR> Knights and Merchants - The Peasants’ Rebellion (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 23:05 <DIR> Master of Magic (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:28 <DIR> Master of Orion 1 & 2 (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 23:06 <DIR> Messiah (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:28 <DIR> Might & Magic 6-Pack Limited Edition (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 21:23 <DIR> Mob Rule (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 01:45 <DIR> Myst Masterpiece Edition (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:31 <DIR> Obscure (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:36 <DIR> Original War (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 23:13 <DIR> Outcast (GoG.com)
15/05/2010 18:35 <DIR> Painkiller Black Edition (GoG.com)
26/05/2010 02:33 <DIR> Phantasmagoria
26/05/2010 02:33 <DIR> Phantasmagoria 2 - A Puzzle of Flesh (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 16:40 <DIR> Port Royale (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:41 <DIR> Postal (Classic and Uncut) (GoG.com)
17/10/2009 21:20 <DIR> Postal 2 Complete (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 16:48 <DIR> Praetorians (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 14:58 <DIR> Psychonauts (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:41 <DIR> Realms of Arkania 1 & 2 (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:42 <DIR> Realms of Arkania 3 (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 15:00 <DIR> Red Baron Pack (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 23:21 <DIR> Redneck Rampage Collection (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 16:25 <DIR> Rise of The Triad - Dark War (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:46 <DIR> Robinson’s Requiem Collection (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:29 <DIR> Sacred Gold (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:48 <DIR> Sacrifice (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 13:10 <DIR> Sanitarium (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 23:12 <DIR> Septerra Core (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 23:08 <DIR> Shogo - Mobile Armor Division (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 17:19 <DIR> Star Wolves (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 23:07 <DIR> Stonekeep (GoG.com)
26/06/2010 20:16 <DIR> Syberia (GoG.com)
26/06/2010 02:07 <DIR> Syberia 2 (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:35 <DIR> Tex Murphy - Overseer (GoG.com)
17/10/2009 21:38 <DIR> Tex Murphy - Pandora Directive (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:34 <DIR> Tex Murphy - Under a Killing Moon (GoG.com)
07/05/2010 22:34 <DIR> Tex Murphy 1 & 2 (GoG.com)
17/10/2009 21:41 <DIR> The Feeble Files (GoG.com)
21/08/2010 17:22 <DIR> The Guild Gold Edition (GoG.com)
08/05/2010 15:01 <DIR> The Incredible Machine Mega Pack (GoG.com)
25/03/2010 12:32 <DIR> The Longest Journey (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 16:32 <DIR> The Patrician 1 & 2 (GoG.com)
21/08/2010 17:03 <DIR> Total Annihilation Commander Pack (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 17:07 <DIR> Tropico Reloaded (GoG.com)
15/08/2010 17:15 <DIR> Two Worlds - Epic Edition (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 17:28 <DIR> UFO Afterlight (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 16:42 <DIR> UFO Aftermath (GoG.com)
12/09/2010 16:36 <DIR> UFO Aftershock (GoG.com)
25/06/2010 20:54 <DIR> Warlords Battlecry III (GoG.com)

This is the Codemaster bundle I bought Friday and didn’t download yet:

Cannon Fodder
Perimeter
I.G.I. 2: Covert Strike
Soldiers: Heroes of World War II
Second Sight

The pack contained 2 more games that I was not interested in though:

  • Sensible Soccer 2006
  • 1NSANE

I also recall:

King’s Quest 1-8
Space Quest 1-4
Age of Wonders

on it which I planned to pick up later.

Looking at that list, I’m reminded of just how many games I had intended on purchasing.

I was about to go on a spree :/

And download my old ones (Fallouts being most sorely missed).

So, the whole “GoG is closing” thing was a joke? I guess I’m happy that GoG is still here, but what a crappy way to generate attention.

Baldur’s Gate is a fine addition though. Long overdue.

Edit: Oops, just noticed the other thread: http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=61339
Sorry for bumping this old one, it was on my tracked threads list.

No, don’t apologize. This one should return as the main thread now that all the “fun” is over with the relaunch.

I got an e-mail for the relaunch and it teases that there are six more Hasbro games to come, with Baldur’s Gate being the first. What might the other six be? Baldur’s Gate 2 seems a given. What about the remaining five?

Civ 2, Test of Time and Simon the Sorcerer seem likely candidates.

Put me down for ten cents on Risk.

Hmmm. Interesting. Civ2? Even with the reduced diplomacy options, it would be interesting to go back to Civ2. I haven’t played Civ2 since Civ 3 came out. It would be a nice nostalgia trip to play on the Earth map with historical starting locations and build lots and lots of caravans to speed up my wonders. I miss that.

I never tried Test of Time. I never liked playing scenarios in any of the Civ games, since I like starting from scratch. I hate that most scenarios drop you into a situation where you have so many cities and units to take care of. But I heard Test of Time had some interesting scenarios where you could start from scratch and build up, just like a base game of Civ2.

Stupid, inconsequential GoG question -

I know it’s out of beta so that must mean I’m missing something: when perusing the screen shots on the site, how does one leave the slideshow short of closing the browser? It’s been bothering me that I can’t seem to figure that out for the last few days.

I have a white cross in the right upper corner of the picture, if that’s what you mean?