Homeland

I just assumed that initially she was getting a sufficient amount of pills and that she may have received some of her Dad’s doses. It is only now that she is starting to get cut off.

She said it was a life long problem, but maybe it only worsened after the incident and her return to the states.

The episode was bland up till he met the reporter/camera dude in the back yard, after that my attention was 100% given.

Yeah, this. I even liked Covert Affairs, kinda, but only because a real, fully-formed spy show didn’t quite exist at the time. This is all the good parts of Rubicon without all the boring, nonsensical parts.

It really depends on what you’re comparing it to. When I started watching Covert Affairs, I was thinking “this is so much better than Burn Notice.”

Whew. I tried to watch Burn Notice after the love here, but couldn’t do it. Like a lot os series, if I had more free time, I may have stuck with it a bit longer, but I just could not see it developing into anything I would enjoy.

Burn Notice, like every show on USA, is a procedural with a hook. In this case, it’s Jeffery Donovan describing things that sound like what a spy would do with a flat affect. The continuity parts are relegated to the beginning and end of most episodes and the formula for how things go together is so clear a blind man could read it. Which is fine, if you’re okay with that sort of thing, but if you’re not, there’s absolutely nothing there for you at all. It probably doesn’t help that Matt Nix seems to have a little bit of an ego about the show and tends to look for a fanatic devotion to it as a crucial hiring standard for his writers (at least, if his Writers’ Panel commentary is any indication). Like all USA shows, it’s definitely not for everybody.

Homeland is definitely a different kind of creature, as it comes from the more pay channel conception of TV that, let’s face it, isn’t REALLY TV. It’s long movies. And that is entirely fine, and it’s a terrific show thus far, but it’s the kind of television that only works when there’s absolutely no chance of cancellation in mid-season, and it’s completely different from regular television, where, in most cases, shows are intended to be consumable by any potential viewers. I kind of pity the guy who tries to walk into the middle of a season of True Blood or Dexter and figure out what’s going on.

I just want some Burn Notice/Dexter crossover. Even if it’s not official and just actors walking through the background.

On topic, I’m loving Homeland. What I want to see though, because I don’t want Damian Lewis to be a bad guy, is that he’s already turned triple agent and is working very secretly with a small team to infiltrate the terrorist group, and that Claire Danes is actually going to endanger or even screw it up entirely by doggedly pursuing him.

Spoilers for the new ep if you haven’t seen it.

As it’s the first post about it

[spoiler]Not quite as good an episode. The scenes with the asset/escort were a little predictable, I think everyone saw that one coming. I do appreciate that it wasn’t just a simple “she gets the information then gets killed” thing, with the necklace being a lead in itself.

Loved the pre-interview walk though - Damien Lewis really shines when he’s in those scenes where he’s remembering and trying to be “normal”. We also got a pretty good scene with him and his daughter where there was absolutely no hint of the internal struggle, just an honest explanation of what’s changed.

Still love the interaction with Saul though, the huge wisdom gap between him and Carrie is so well portayed.

Also, hello awkward not-sex scene! [/spoiler]

Hahaha on your last point. I literally sat there and mouthed “Aawwwwkkkwaaaard”.

Had to love Carrie’s reaction to it too - that bizarre mix of not being able to turn away but not being able to watch, and her own frustrations (sexual, and presumably “other” as well) boiling over.

Top stuff.

Quite enjoying the show, though the guys on Channel Surfing make an excellent point in episode 144. You’ve presumed the guy dead and everybody now seems to think he was tortured for seven years in a row - maybe let the guy rub one out without the horrible shame face? Nobody in this show cuts anybody any breaks, like, at all.

I think the last episode took the series from a methodical pacing into a tedious one. I am enjoying the tension and different relationships but think they need to pick up the plot a bit.

Yeah, I agree. Too many near-misses and avenues being closed. I appreciate the acting but it’s getting a tiny bit monotonous. Not sure I could deal with another episode of husband/wife drama and Carrie getting whiny to Saul while her boss plots her downfall.

On the plus side, the terrorist couple were suitably human and creepy at the same time.

Worst. Spies. Ever.

You are tailing a guy who might be a possible suspect. On his way home, he goes in completely the opposite direction, drives into a neighborhood he doesn’t live in, and then go aimlessly driving to a couple random destinations, and you don’t suspect that maybe your tail was spotted?

Much like The Walking Dead (and most zombie movies, books, etc) takes place in a world without zombie lore, Homeland must take place in a world without spy novels and films.

Yeah, I was liking the espionage aspects of Homeland until tonight’s episode. It makes Carrie look like a complete amateur. And if she isn’t good enough to tail someone without being spotted, she should have put someone on it who was.

Agree with all of you. Claire Danes whining and pleading is definitely wearing thin. Still liking Damien Lewis.

At least they got rid of the 24 hour surveillance with her wanting to look and then averting her eyes and then looking and then smirking and then taking a couple notes.

Blammo.

Producers are on record that we will definitely know whether or not Damian is evil by the end of the first season (and they said this after The Killing’s entire run, so I assume they mean it), so I’m legitimately intrigued to see where they go from here.

Awesome news. I’m really enjoying this show. Reminds me of Sleeper Cell in pacing/tone, although from a different viewpoint.

I’m kind of glad how little this is reminding me of Sleeper Cell, as Sleeper Cell made me feel kind of like a crazy racist because, I mean, I don’t know if it was effective or what, but by the end of the first season run I just wanted to MURDER THE HOLY LIVING HELL OUT OF THAT GODDAMN SHIT. I had to stop watching it in the second season. 24 also did that from time to time when they’d have cartoonishly evil ethnic villains. Homeland has thus far mercifully not tried to play to my apparent unhealthy psychotic urges.

Of course, I get too involved with particularly engrossing shows, so maybe this is a bad thing for them? Because I also just about quit out of Game of Thrones until I spoiled myself on a plot point that I needed to happen if I was going to keep going with it that won’t be coming up for at least a season or two.

After last night’s episode, I feel a twist a-comin’.