It's time to have a 2020 Presidential Election thread

So why didn’t you do it if it was so easy? Why didn’t any of you?

Amazon is more than a logistical marvel. It owes its success to being relentlessly customer-centric. If something goes wrong with an Amazon purchase, I am pretty confident that everything will end up ok. Even now, a lot of other companies have not copied that.

Regardless of whether Bezos deserves a billion dollars, I think it’s weird to believe that Amazon’s success is simply luck. Why isn’t that true of, say, Baldur’s Gate? I mean, if BioWare didn’t exist, then someone else eventually would have made a D&D computer game. And others have since then. Does that mean that Baldur’s Gate is nothing special and its success is merely luck?

Literally nothing matters, because the flow of history is set, regardless of what anyone does.

Hitler? Not that bad. If he hadn’t started WWII and the Holocaust, someone else would have.

It was luck, because it could just as easily been Diapers.com, or one of the hundreds of other companies competing for our dollars.

As for me, well, I got unlucky, and missed my shot. Something about being in High School when it all went down.

And, so, reduce everything to the absurb level, because you can’t bring up a legit point. Shame on you.

I thought we were going to move this discussion to another thread! We need a Jeff Bezos to come show us the way. Only a Bezos could have a brilliant idea like starting a new thread.

That one was taken over by Andy trying to explain why racists Republicans aren’t racist or… something.

Its funny you say that, because I stopped using amazon because of a really bad customer service event. Not that amazon has noticed the lack of my business, but i do tend to vote with my wallet.

Could I pre-order a game at Diapers.com and buy a jacket at the same time?

If there were a company that sold pretty much everything with customer service as good as Amazon’s, then I would shop there. But that doesn’t exist online. There are sites that sell everything with bad customer service, like target.com. There are sites that have great customer service but only sell to a niche, like bhphotovideo. Nobody else has combined the two, which makes me think it’s more than just luck.

Or if it is just “luck”, then the same applies to Baldur’s Gate. Just luck. Anyone could have done something similar. There are so many computer games, how hard can it be? It could just as easily been Grimoire.

I never had any issues with Target. Maybe you are an outlier?

Anyway, you can’t purchase much of anything at Diapers.com, because Bezos made sure to drive Diapers.com out of business so that they would continue to have a monopoly. Because, in the end of the day, Bezos wants to maximize profits by stomping on competition. Because Billionaires hate the idea of capitalism.

Because, and I can’t stress this enough, Amazon is the the Walmart of online shopping (except, at least Walmart pays local taxes and hires local people and has a local store).

And what is with your obsession with Baldur’s Gate? No one is going to engage with you on that weird tangent. I mean, you might as well bring up how dastardly lollipops are. It makes just as much sense.

I think the idea isn’t that it’s easy, but that it’s not as unique and visionary as some make it out to be.

In addition to Humanton’s point about the ferment that precedes a lot of big ideas/inventions in the modern era (flight, light bulb, a method of tracking longitude), there’s also a question of the value of leadership versus the rank and file. A general is necessary for an army to function, but without soldiers there is no army. The soldiers are more replaceable than the general, but they also do most of the shooting and dying. Is the general worth 10x as much as soldier? 100x as much? 1000x as much? 10,000x as much? At some point does the question of “does anyone really need X amount?” enter into the calculation? And who’s deciding this valuation anyway? Government, free market, God?

Pretty much this. It took hard work and sacrifice, but so does coal mining. Yet, none of us care that coal mining is going extinct.

Target.com is still around, and so is Walmart.com. Why aren’t they as successful as Amazon?

Ok, so Bezos is ruthless. That’s a lot different than being lucky. For better or worse, our society rewards ruthlessness.

I don’t have a problem with Bill Gates or Bezos being billionaires.

The problematic billionaires are people like Jeffrey Epstein and Wilbur Ross; people who won at the casino after other people gave them money to gamble with.

No, that is just using your luck to make sure that everyone else gets fucked over. He got lucky by getting there first. Everything else is him just being a huge ass dick that hates society and capitalism.

And Walmart and Target are brick and mortar stores, so for most of Amazon’s run, they had a different niche from Amazon. Its only the last 3-4 years that they have been trying to compete with 2 day shipping. Hell, what about Sears? Or Toy’s R Us?

but the fact that the company has managed to invent its own shopping holiday speaks volumes about its dominant position on top of the retail landscape.

Amazon was rated “best” by 21% of American consumers in a mammoth 7,000-person study for the second year in a row.

Meanwhile, Walmart was rated “worst,” also for the second year in a row.

Walmart was the dominant in the space, still kind of is B&M so why do you think all these easy things Amazon can do, Walmart can’t do.

About 80% of its customers believe Amazon “gets me,” takes care of them, and has a great future. For Walmart, those numbers drop to 56%.

This shit isn’t easy, even for you Monday coaches looking back and saying pfft, anyone could do it. Except… they can’t, they aren’t.

I can’t believe there so many people who think success and hardwork is just a given and only comes from luck. This is why the Democrats are so often setting themselves up to lose. Forget Medicare, forget free college, this is an easy appeal to anyone who thinks they work and the far left shows up to tell them fuck you, give me.

Others that were rated high include Target, Kohl’s, Costco, Macy’s, Best Buy … and Walmart.

But, none of them are online only, did you notice that? Did you notice that there are 0 other Online only retailers on that list? It’s almost like any that grow big are quickly put out of business and don’t have a chance to compete with Amazon.

Its like Amazon doesn’t want to compete with anyone.

Yeah, they’re not number one though, and that’s the legacy group there. If they did their shit right, Amazon didn’t even need to exist. There’s a whole trail of legacy groups not there, and they won’t ever been there because they got buried; they’re gone, dead companies.

Yes. Poorly. Two day shipping on nearly everything was first introduced by Amazon and helped to cement its advantage over B&M stores. So that wasn’t luck, either.

And, how many online only retailers can you name?

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