Kaby Lake System Build


#61

Again under the worst case scenario, with a poorly ventilated case, full CPU and GPU load, sequential writes throttled from 1600MB/sec to 400MB/sec after 21 seconds. So after copying 33.6GB.

But that worst case scenario is bullshit. You’re only at full GPU load while benchmarking or high-end gaming. CUDA use rendering video or whatever won’t get there. So yeah, if you’re playing The Witcher 3 and simultaneously copying over 30GB of data from one NVMe SSD to another in a poorly ventilated case, your SSD will throttle down to “only” 400MB/sec.

The heatsink is simply not necessary.


#62

LOL let the man have his heatsink!


#63

The man is a heatsink racist. He cannot be reasoned with!


#64

I like to think of myself as an alt-cooler.


#65

See, this is why we need a like button.


#66

From Anandtech:

The 960 EVO includes all of the thermal management measures of the 960 Pro, including the copper-backed heat spreading label, a very power-efficient controller and a well-tuned thermal throttling implementation. TLC NAND has been shown to be, in general, slower and more power-hungry than MLC NAND so the 960 EVO is more susceptible to thermal throttling than the 960 Pro, but Samsung claims it is still less of a problem than it was for the 950 Pro, which means that virtually all real-world usage scenarios will not trigger throttling.

So, why bother with the 950?


#67

…cost?


#68

Don’t think the 950 is cheaper, especially than the evo.


#69

Yes! I noticed this on my 960 pro! I removed the labels from both sides – I wanted the thermal adhesive for the heatsink to stick to the chips not the label on top of the chips – and when I did, I noticed the back side has a small copper plate under its sticker. I left that on.


#70

@lordkosc,

That motherboard should be great. I was originally going for that one, but ended up with the Strix Z270E because it adds 802.11ac wi-fi, bluetooth, and higher-end audio (better isolation, mostly) for just about $20 more. (And you get a ROG coaster for your Mountain Dew!)

I went for the Corsair Vengeance RAM and it’s been fine, though I had to back off the XMP. Haven’t had time to figure out a stable overclock yet so just running everything at stock speeds.

I got the 1TB version of that MX300 and it’s been great. The only downside is that using a SATA M.2 drive instead of PCI, you lose access to SATA Port 1 on the motherboard. I wasn’t using all six SATA connectors, but it did make me go through some silly troubleshooting to figure out why one of my drives wasn’t showing up.


#71

I had the exact same issue with mine. Is this a normal thing?


#72

Same here with a Strix z270g and 32 gigs of Corsair Vengeance 3200 RAM. I could never boot at all with XMP on, so I had to manually set speed, voltage and timings and then further tweak the secondary timings when it still failed to boot intermittently.


#73

Think I am gonna go with this ASRock board over the Asus , I need more SATA connections, as I will actually lose 2 with the M.2 drive. I won’t get a M.2 drive right away, as my MX300 SSD is still ok. I’ll wait for the M.2 1TB drives to drop in price. :)

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/74165-asrock-fatal1ty-z270-gaming-k6-motherboard-review.html

Here is my cart over at EGG. Figure I’ll order it all monday, then work on it next weekend.

Wish they would have found a way to keep all the SATA ports working when using M.2 slots. :|


#74

Pardon my ignorance, but why would you be using SATA ports for m.2 instead of pci?


#75

Don’t know if all motherboards do it, but some of the ones i’ve been looking at say that one, or more, of the M.2 slots share bandwidth with a sata port, so using it will be disable that port.


#76

Ah, ok. guess that makes sense.


#77

There are two kinds of M.2 drives: Some use as SATA transfer mechanism, and some use PCI-E. The MX300, for instance, is SATA, while the Samsung 960 is PCI-E.

Either one can result in having to disable SATA ports, though. On the Strix Z270E, if you use a PCI-E M.2 drive in the second of two slots you either have to run it in X2 mode, or disable SATA 5 and 6 ports to use it in full-bandwidth X4 mode.


#78

None of that really matters unless you’re editing 4k video or some other application that benefits from very high sequential transfer speeds.

When I upgraded my computer I couldn’t tell the difference going from SATA2 to 3, and that was a straight-up doubling from 375 MB/sec to 750 MB/sec. Desktop and even most gaming performance is sensitive to random access speed, not sequential.


#79

Made a few changes, a better mobo with 10 sata ports! And a cooler with a higher CFM fan. Changed the memory to 16-16-16-36 timing 3200 speed G.SKILL. and its cheaper than the corsair brand! Newegg should have it all here by Wednesday.

So quick question, will I have to do a clean install of Win 10? Or can I fudge it and just plug in my existing Win10 ssd, use a Win10 boot usb drive to repair the install and find all the new hardware then re-register with MS?

Last time I tried a lazy install , I ended up formatting my entire PC. But that was with Win7, I am sure its a smoother process now with Win 10 , right?

Watched a few CPU benchmark videos, seems the CPU /RAM / MOBO upgrade will be a 25-30% bump in overall speed , going from my i7-2600k (it won’t stay stable at 4+ghz anymore).


#80

You should be able to go without a complete reinstall, if you really want to. I wouldn’t recommend it though.