Nintendo Switch

I believe the fellow with the Green Hat gives you the option to “finish” a level in Super Mario Maker 2 if you fail enough times (aka… twice).

Ah, thank you for the explanation!
That sounds pretty darn annoying. But whereas Mario always struck me as a debonair fellow, Luigi… well… he is sort of creepy, isn’t he?

So I decided to give Breath of the Wild a fourth try, and I made it about ten hours in and was having a decent amount of fun at times, but I think I’m going to have to put it back down. I just cannot mesh with the controls, and any time an amount of finesse is required, it just becomes a miserable, frustrating experience. I want to like this game so much (I bought the system for this, and keep convincing myself this might be the time it’ll really click) but I just feel like it’s actively repulsing me.

I can’t stand it.

I just don’t grasp the game. I would like to, I also bought the Switch for it. At first, I didn’t have a pro controller or a long enough HDMI cable for docking, so I played it handheld only (obviously). I thought maybe the fact that everything was so tiny in such a huge world was causing my boredom.

The other day, docked it up, expensive as sin controller in hand and it’s still just as boring as ever.

It seems if I dare voice this opinion anywhere, I get disdain at best.

On the other hand I can’t wait to get my hands on Link’s Awakening.

I’ve tried to like BOTW many times, just don’t. On the other hand, I have played Streets of Rogue all night and am loving it.


Yup, I’ve bounced off BOTW a few times myself. At the moment, I’m on try #3, and what’s actually making it work is that I’m sharing the experience with my 6-year-old son. He takes over sometimes, and spends a lot of time directing my actions, but the open, unstructuredness of it works for him and it helps me to play it with a partner.

Hey Qt3 welcomes a wide range of opinions, even ones expressed by some goddamn philistines such as yourselves.

[Shakes head as I polish my new monocle]

This game is fun!!

BotW is the best video game ever made. It’s ok to hate great things though. I heard that’s cool. :)

I got a dozen or so hours into BotW when I first got my Switch two years ago and haven’t been back since. I didn’t hate it, but it didn’t really grab me. I mean to go back to it at some point but haven’t felt the need.

It’s kind of like how Qt3 hates movies.


I love BoTW. However, I think it’s because of the mindset it put me in when I played. I bounced off the first time, after 10 hours, probably because I was trying to go from quest to quest. When I approached it the second time, more as an exploration game, it grabbed me. That said, it’s unlikely I could to return to it and enjoy it again because I doubt I’d ever rediscover the sense of wonder I had when I played it through on my second try. There’s little doubt in my mind that the memory of playing it is better than the actual experience.

I like the little puzzle dungeons in BotW. I ran around doing a bunch of those after I got off the initial plateau. After that, I moved on to playing something else. Considering I don’t like open-world games, that’s pretty decent.

The only Zelda game I’ve ever completed is Ocarina on 3DS.

I fell in love with it immediately and it’s still my #1 today. :)

I played it for 150+ hours on Wii U and then bought it again for Switch and played it another 100+ hours there.

I can understand why some people might not like it though. I was just in the right mindset. I loved exploring the world, discovering new things all the time, finding shrines, solving environmental puzzles, and everything else. It was just a perfectly zen experience, whether at home on my TV or just on the bus passing time.

My one and only complaint about BotW is the low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low weapon durability.

The durability isn’t a big deal once you get better weapons later on. But I just viewed weapons as I ordinarily view ammo in shooters - don’t get precious about them, use whatever you find fun, and you’ll quickly find replacements for whatever breaks.

I find I enjoy BotW the most when I remember I can just back out of the temple or wherever and just go back to exploring. If it weren’t for the combat, the motion controls, the rain, any sort of timing-related puzzle, and accidentally clicking in the left stick and crouching in a tense moment, I’d be having a fair amount of fun.

I would be curious to see some numbers on how many people who love BotW were already fans of the Zelda games vs coming in cold. I think I rented the first two NES games once each about 30 years ago, but that’s pretty much the extent of my direct experience with the series. I wonder how much nostalgia plays into this.