It’s a ridiculous disincentive to start new characters. Horse speed, saddlebag space, and stamina to run past aggro is crazy important.
draxen
4710
@stusser, let me know if you need any equipment for your new sorc?
I’ve got maxed crafting + ton of materials.
Well I could use light armor training gear for level 20, 30, and 40 if it isn’t too expensive. The seducer set ideally.
draxen
4712
Babish makes sweetrolls :)
Got my magsorc up to level 50 and (finally) CP 160, then picked up some starter sets. The game really picks up once your gear isn’t immediately replaceable trash.
They really should just make all level 50 gear the same quality, having to level up a second time is really confusing for new players, and 160 seems like such an arbitrary stopping point.
160 is a legacy from Veteran Rank (VR) 16.
I’ve heard rumors that they are going to take a good hard look at the whole CP system. They will need to tread carefully though. Nobody want’s to grind for new gear if they are at 160. You are absolutely right about the progression up until then.
The whole CP thing seemed like a good thing at the time as Diablo 3 had pretty good success with their equivalent Paragon system. I think the game would be better off without it.
Now if they would only get rid of the cast times on those ultimates. It’s the one thing that keeps me playing very much. So depressing.
stusser
4715
Yes I know where it came from, it’s just stupid to keep it.
I was encouraged by the changes tested recently, where light attacks regenerate resources but do a lot less damage and strong attacks hit much harder but don’t regen to stop light attack weaving, but they walked them back.
Nixxter
4716
Can I ask for recommendations on how to start with ESO? As in, which version do I buy, where do I start, etc.?
Background - I had already purchased it on Steam, it says Tamriel Unlimited Gold as far as the edition goes. What has always intrigued me about the game is what is said about being able to play it primarily as a single player game. Plus, since Morrowind, I’ve played everything Elder Scrolls related and got pretty deep into it.
Capped off by reading a recent Edge follow-up on the latest expansion Greymoor and the game overall. Among other appealing things they had to say (and over the years, their follow-ups have been consistently praising) … “ESO has always served up irresistible characters and bold ideas within even the smallest encounters”. And “Unlike most MMOs, the game is not bound by the quality of its PVP combat; it has never asked us to sink our time into battle royales (or even play sociably if we don’t want to), quietly building a deep singleplayer experience which the game’s online nature would allow to constantly evolve.”
Your thoughts on how and where to start would be appreciated, I know the game has been around through multiple expansions, etc. and I am late to the party, but, knowing what I like in gaming, I think I’m a good candidate.
It will probably be a little bit before I start, finishing up Far Cry 5 first but I’m pretty far along in that now. I like deciding what to play next ahead of time.
Thank you for helping!
Start with whatever version you have, play for a bit, and then determine if you want to go in for more. There is plenty to do, even in the base game, to make it worth your time. Once they changed the game so that you can level anywhere, it really became a great game. You can just wander around the map and be highly entertained. The main story quest is also quite good, with some amazing voice acting, and is also well worth your time, even if that’s all you ever did.
I would just jump in, and discover as you go.
You might want to look up what order the zones were originally supposed to be played in - it’s possible to explore however and wherever you want, but the main story quests do happen in a chronological order so I’d probably tackle zones in that order ideally. You can always wander off and do the side stories between the more dramatic bits. There’s no need to buy any expansions until you’re done with the base game.
Also consider subscribing. It’s optional, but you get some good benefits (not least an infinite crafting material bag), get access to most of the post-launch content while subscribed (not the most recent Chapter or two, but all the DLC zones and the first couple Chapters as I understand it), and get Crowns to buy whatever from the Crown Store, such as permanent access to DLC zones. (It’s probably the most cost effective way to do the DLCs - play some while subscribed, buy the rest with the Crowns from subscribing.)
stusser
4719
Yeah, you can play in any order you want. The expansion content tends to be a bit higher quality as it’s newer, but you can check out the release stuff and see how you like it, or pay them $15/month for a subscription and get access to everything.
Dottz Gaming is a great source of info for ESO. Here is a video for beginners that covers pretty much everything:
Note that it’s 3 hours long, but you don’t need to watch it from start to finish to understand the game. Watch the first four or five sections and then play. You can come back to the video when you run into questions and you’ll probably find the answers in one of the sections. They are all listed with time stamps to help you find what you need.
stusser
4721
Yeah, the way ESO handles character progression is very much unlike any other game.
Snowfox
4722
If you want to experience the original story path this guide gives you the path including all dlc.
I started ESO in Aldmeri Dominion in late August and I find the quests enjoyable from a solo perspective and the main questline is good.
I just reached lvl 50 after four maps and there is a lot of game left in just the base game so you dont need to purchase any of the newer expansions unless you have a special intrest in it.
I will say the expansions are really good - a cut above the base game. But they’re not important to own until you are ready to explore them.
You can play for a few hours and decide if you like the crafting aspect of the game. If you do, then I advise you to subscribe for a month since that gives you the unlimited crafting bag where all your crafting materials go when you gather them. You can subscribe for a month and then stop. After you stop the bag will not be able to be added to, but everything in it will stay there and when you craft stuff will get pulled out of it.
ESO is a great game and you certainly can play like it’s a single player experience. I’ve played through a couple of times starting from zero and it’s always been a lot of fun.
Nixxter
4725
Thank ALL of you for helping me get started. I will use these suggestions to get my feet wet and check back with you once I have started in with any questions I have.
habibi
4726
This. This is a great summary of ESO. I started in April and is still playing the Base game today. I didn’t have to go with the monthly sub (ESO+) nor did I get any DLC yet. The Base game itself is rich with tons of quest and storyline and once, in a while, I do go into PVP zone (called Cyrodill) to have some fun. Overall, it is a pretty good game as a standalone solo play and brings tons of value to the mere $10 (one time cost during Steam sales) you have to pay for it.
One time, they gave out a one week free ESO+ trial and the way they give this is a click of a button in-game. No credit card info is required. In that one week, I went to two DLC zones and was amazed at the content, both the story and the quality of graphics improvement. One day, when I am done with the Base game, I will get a couple of DLCs on sale to explore.
I have actually finished the main quest, but there’s so much to do that I feel I am only just getting started, 6 months since I started playing.
Daagar
4727
I’m sure you know all of this by this point, but just in case:
Purchasing the game via steam or wherever gives you Chapters (Greymoor, Morrowind, etc.). But you do NOT get the corresponding DLC that is part of those Chapters. Those can only be purchased via the in-game store with ‘Crowns’, or by unlocking them via an ESO+ subscription.
EDIT: And because it can be so confusing, I forgot to also mention - you can get all the Chapters up-to-but-not-including the latest (Greymoor) just via the ESO+ sub. Greymoor will be added to ESO+ upon release of the next Chapter (ie., ~June 2021)
habibi
4728
I know each DLCs are separate eg Summerset, Orsinium, Greymoor, Morrowind. What I wasn’t clear, until you mentioned it, is that they ARE RELATED! You mean from a story point of view right? No wonder Markath, the latest DLC, is the “end” of the Dark Heart of Skyrim saga… I presume it starts with Greymoor and ends with Markath. There’s more?