Way too early - Possible 2020 Democratic Candidates

Just because he is left of the alt-right and more moderate in temperament than Trump does not make him a centrist.

He has always been a conservative. He has gutted public education, is an opponent to unions, supports repealing the ACA, made voting more difficult in Ohio, wants to cut social security, is anti-women’s reproductive rights, etc.

I’m pretty sure Kasich is super religious too, which is a big turn off for me. In addition to all the crap strummer lists above.

You run Kasich with a D next to his name to challenge Trump and I doubt I could be assed to get to the polls.

I’m not gonna say Jill Stein gets my vote…but her replacement might. We the people need a vote that says “These two people are GARBAGE START THE FUCK OVER.”

Franken 2020!

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“grab 'em by the p***y, light”

That gif is exactly my reaction to Kasich being the Dem candidate running against Trump.

Rumors in Colorado that John Hickenlooper is considering a long odds bid.

He would be amazing. He has been center-left here in the state. He is principled and knows how to compromise.

Unfortunately I don’t think he has the charisma for a national race

Oh, Kasich? Yeah, f that guy. I thought you were jumping from “Not Kasich” to “Give me a Jill Stein protege (preferably one who can speak English without too much of a Russian accent)”

NOOOO. Lordy.

If Kasich won the democratic primary and I had the choice of him or Trump, I wouldn’t feel much better than if I voted for Jill Stein. I’d still vote for the not-trump in the equation, but god damn can I get a candidate I like or believe in even a little?

No, welcome to 2018.

Please punch your ticket without passion and deposit it into the garbage to save the Republican-bought pollworkers the trouble.

Sherrod Brown is a man I wouldn’t overly mind having a beer with.

I hate to say it, but there’s no chance this country elects someone named Hickenlooper unless the opponent’s name sounds “foreign” (read: not white).

I like Cory a lot. He is articulate, not overly partisan cause he got stuff done with Christie, and makes good impassioned speeches about helping the poor, that’d I’d hope would keep the progressive wing of the party from hating him. American’s tend to elect somebody who has the opposite qualities of the last presidents worst failings. (In Trump’s case there are so many). So Cory eloquence is a great contrast, and if he reminds people of Obama that’s a big bonus.

I think the Democrats would do well to consider Adam Schiff. Adam is whip smart. (I just checked and wasn’t even a little surprised to see he went to Stanford undergrad and Harvard law.) To me he has been the best face of the Democrat resistant constantly challenging Dimwit Devin Nunes and making the Republican intelligence committee look like idiots. He doesn’t seem to have any major baggage and as middle age white guy, probably not likely to be scary enough mobilize marginally Trump voters to go out to the polls.

The far right thinks that Schiff is literally the devil now, as he had been involved in investigating Trump, and so the far right has demonized him to try and negate anything he finds.

The hardcore Trump voters (I refuse to call them right or conservative) don’t matter.
I think the key to 2020, is to find a candidate who sounds progressive enough that he/she will inspire the Bernie bro and especially young people to come to polls. At the same time, isn’t so scary that will inspire the folks who voted for Trump only, because he was better than Hillary , to come out and vote against the person.

Nor does it matter what Fox says, Tucker Carlson nightly viewership is < 1 million, and weekly viewship is 3.75 million and he is Fox top rate host. At first approximation all Fox viewers are a lost cause.

They could do a whole lot worse than Schiff. And probably will.

I know how about Joan Baez/Barrack Obama (he can be VP right).

Actually, this just an excuse to share this lovely video.

But any candidate will be the devil to the far right after the Fox machine is through with them, so why does it matter?

The entire right wing sphere is attacking the Parkland students, from Fox to the National Review (NRO editor Rich Lowry calls them ‘teenage demagogues.’) There isn’t anyone they won’t attack. IOW, Gordon is right, any Democrat is going to be turned into a far-left radical extreme socialist communist who wants sharia law and will take all your guns. The question is, will the MSM carry water for them like they did this last election (or with Kerry or Gore.) Even now, any time trump acts minimally human the media can’t trip over themselves fast enough with praise. It’s disgusting.

At any rate, I’m really not interested in trying to appeal to weakly aligned trump voters (is there even such a thing?) Their numbers while just enough to tilt the electoral college this past election really are marginal. The key, as always, is turn out turn out turn out. I hope we have high enough participation in the primaries to get a candidate who can do that. American politics isn’t about policy or ideology, but I hope enough of the electorate now realize that elections really do have consequences.