Avalon with Plots - Game 13 - Get in here to point fingers and cast doubt

Four Evil-doers have infiltrated the ranks of the loyal Good folk of King Arthur. And now, they must survive five harrowing quests to prove their loyalty to the Round Table. Will Arthur’s servants succeed in at least three of the five quests? Or will Evil thwart any attempts at success? Will Merlin get it in the end?

In this game, there will be 6 Loyal Servants of King Arthur and 4 Minions of Mordred (including Mordred himself!) The number of players per quest is as follows. An asterisk (*) indicates that two Failure votes are required to fail the quest, when normally only one is required.

Quest 1: 3 players
Quest 2: 4 players
Quest 3: 4 players
Quest 4: 5 players (*)
Quest 5: 5 players

========== The rules ==========

There are five turns, or quests. The game winner is determined by the majority: the winning faction succeeds in their goals in three or more quests. That is, Good wins if three or more quests succeed and Merlin survives; Evil wins if three or more quests fail or Merlin is killed.

There is a strict no PMs policy (except to the moderator for voting).

Setup: Player order is randomized and players are randomly assigned roles (see below for more info on each role.) Players receive their role assignments. Each role will receive a PM with the following information:


Good characters (6 total):
Merlin - Knows Evil (except for Mordred), must remain hidden
Percival - Knows Merlin (also Morgana, and can’t tell which is which)
Loyal Servant of Arthur (quantity: 4) - you get squat, just the knowledge that you’re a Good person (which is enough reward)


Evil characters (4 total):
Morgana - Appears as Merlin; knows Assassin and Mordred
Assassin - Minion of Mordred; knows Morgana and Mordred
Mordred - Unknown to Merlin; knows Morgana and Assassin
Oberon - Unknown to Evil; knows nobody. You get squat, you’re pretty much on your own. You can try and worm your way onto Good quests though!

Round order:

Hey, look! I made you a little graphic.

Leader Selection: The first Party Leader (for Quest 1) is selected at random. In normal play, subsequent Party Leaders proceed down the list, and the list wraps around. Plot cards: A player can assume team leadership at this time using the Strong Leader plot card. Strong Leader cards can be played immediately after No Confidence.

Mission Start: Plot Cards: At the beginning of each mission (i.e., the first Team Leader for each mission), the team leader is dealt three Plot Cards in-thread. The number of plot cards depends on the number of players, as follows:
5-6 players: 1 plot card
7-8 players: 2 plot cards
9-10 players: 3 plot cards
Thus, for 10 players, there will be 3 plot cards per round. The team leader distributes the Plot Cards to any of the other players (not him/herself). I took this photo of the Plot Thickens expansion rules and (continued) extended descriptions of all plot cards. You can also view the video rules about Plot Cards. Plot cards: Use Immediately Plot Cards (Take Responsibility, Establish Confidence, Open Up, Overheard Conversation) happen now.

Quest Start, Party Selection: At the start of the Quest, the party leader chooses a number of players to accompany him or her on a quest. This is done publicly in-thread. The party size for each quest is determined by the number of players, according to the rules.

Party Vote: Players vote (open ballot) on whether the quest should be allowed to proceed. Voting will be called at 12 hours past the quest announcement and absent votes, abstentions, and passes will be counted as yes-votes. Votes may be PMed to me so that voting order does not influence anybody; alternately, you may vote publicly in-thread. I will post the results of the votes including the names of all voters. Majority wins; ties favor failure. Please bold your vote if you vote in-thread. Players that miss two votes in a row will be disqualified from the game. Plot cards: Opinion Makers must vote first and publicly (in-thread). Players may wait for Opinion Maker votes before casting their own votes.

Party Vote Results: The results of the party selection and each player’s vote will be displayed publicly in-thread.
If the majority of the votes are negative: proceed to Quest Start, Party Selection again. This counts as a party leadership change. Five party leadership changes in one quest results in an Evil victory for the game. Plot cards: No Confidence Plot Cards happen after the vote in-thread. These count as a team leadership change.

Call to Arms: The moderator will announce that the quest is a go, and that quest’s party members must PM their votes (see below). Plot cards: In The Spotlight happens now: play the card in-thread. Your answer will also be delivered in-thread.

Quest Vote: Players selected for the quest vote on whether the quest succeeds or fails (closed ballot). Quest party members must PM me their votes once called. In the first three turns and the final turn, one failure-vote fails the quest for the Good faction (and wins it for Evil.) In the fourth turn, two failure-votes are required for Evil to fail the quest.

Good players must vote SUCCESS. Evil players may choose to vote SUCCESS or FAILURE. This vote is a closed ballot. Vote order will be randomized and revealed without player names. Any missing votes will be treated as SUCCESS votes. Players that miss two votes in a row will be disqualified from the game.

Quest Results: The result of the quest is revealed, including each randomized and anonymized vote and whether the quest succeeded or failed. Plot cards: Keeping a Close Eye on You cards can be played at this time: play the card in-thread and your answer will come from me by PM.

================== Player Roles - A Guide ============

** The Loyal Servants of Arthur **

Merlin - you know each Evil player except for Mordred. Your goal is to somehow let the other Good players know what you know without letting the Evil players know what you know…you know? If you’re sloppy, the Assassin will take you out in the end and Evil will (boringly) triumph.

Percival - you know the two players that are holding the Merlin and Morgana cards but you don’t know which is which. Your goal is to figure out which one is Merlin, then try to impersonate him/her as best you can. Best case is that the Assassin takes you out in the end and Good wins! Except you’ll be dead…so kind of a so-so victory.

Loyal Servant of Arthur (quantity: 4) - you don’t know anything except King Arthur is the bee’s knees. Try and figure out who your friends are, or at least some of them. Try to let Merlin’s wisdom flow into that thick-headed peasant skull of yours as well. And try not to think of yourself as generic…only 40% of the players get to be this role! That’s pretty special!

** The Minions of Mordred **

Mordred - the traitorous son himself. You can’t be seen by Merlin so you have the best shot of mucking up your goody two-shoes father’s plans. Try and figure out who Oberon is so you don’t accidentally double Fail a quest that you’re both on.

Morgana - damned if you don’t look exactly like that old gaffer Merlin! At least to Percival, who to be honest was never the sharpest longsword in the armory. Try and fool Percy into thinking you’re his best friend and he’ll follow you like a little puppy dog through quest after failed quest.

Oberon - who needs friends? You have no idea who’s on your side but honey badger don’t care (sorry, don’t know where that came from.) Try and worm your way onto as many quests as possible so you can impress your idol of Evil, Mordred. I’m sure he’ll notice you if you just try a little harder, maybe even go with you to the big Bane Ball next semester.

The Assassin - you get the final say in things so make it count. Put a dagger in Merlin’s back and your faction wins. Listen to your Evil cohorts or not, it’s your call.

========== Plot cards ==========
Plot cards (quantity in parentheses)

(2) Keeping a close eye on you: You may look at one played Mission card
One-time use – The player to whom the Leader passes this card may use this card to examine a played Mission card. Using this card does not require a player to announce its use before the Mission cards are played, nor does it affect the Mission card played. Multiple Mission cards may be checked in a single round, but no more than one player may check a single player’s Mission card on a round

(1) Establish Confidence: The Leader must show their Character card to a player of their choice
Use immediately – The Leader must pass their Character card to any other player for examination

(2) Strong Leader: You can become the Leader. Play before Plot or Team Cards have been distributed
One time use – The player to whom the Leader passes this card may use this card to become the Leader. Use of this card must be declared before the Leader takes any actions (draw Plot Cards or distributing Team cards). When a “Strong Leader” is played, another “Strong Leader” may not be played until a Vote has been taken

(2) Overheard Conversation: You must look at the Character card of a player on your immediate right or left
Extended description: Use immediately – The player to whom the Leader passes this card must look at the Character card of one adjacent player. MB: The “adjacent” player is up or down the list; select the adjacent player publicly and the moderator will PM the result

(3) No Confidence: You may null an approved Vote and force leadership change
One time use – The player to whom the Leader passes this card may use this card to reject an approved Mission team (successful Vote). Using this card counts as a failed Vote

(1) In the Spotlight: You can choose another player to submit their Mission card face up
One-time use – The player to whom the Leader passes this card may use this card to force a player to play their Mission card face up. The player playing this card must declare its use and the target player prior to any player on the Mission team selecting their Mission card

(1) Open Up: You must reveal your Character card to one player of your choice
Use immediately – The player to whom the Leader passes this card must pass their Character card to any other player (including the Leader) for examination. NB: The result (Resistance or Spy) will come from the moderator by PM

(1) Take Responsibility: You must take a Plot card from another player
One-time use – The player to whom the Leader passes this card must take one Plot card from any other player.

(2) Opinion Maker: You must Vote first & publicly for the rest of the game
Permanent Effect – The player to whom the Leader passes this card must select and reveal their Vote card before any other players have selected their Vote cards. This card remains in effect until the end of the game. If two “Opinion Maker” cards are in play, those players must reveal their votes simultaneously

========== Scores ==========

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========== Player order ==========

Christien Murawski
Dave Perkins
Blips
robthomasson
Lantz
scottagibson
jostly
soondifferent
rowe33
CaseyRobinson

Christien Murawski is the team leader of Quest the First.

Soon he shall have ye olde plot cards.

9th?! My bravery will sadly be unused in early questing…oh well, I will await my opportunity for glorious deeds.

Team Leader Christien Murawski: Please distribute the following cards in any order. As order matters, please pause after distributing Open Up so we can resolve the card’s effects.

No Confidence
Keeping a close eye on you
Open Up

I’d like to nominate myself for the Open Up card to try and cut through all the early game red tape.

Supplying a rationale for Open Up card distribution: +1 suspicion points.

You know as well as I that supplying no rationale would be met with criticism/suspicion as well. +1 suspicion point.

At this point in the game, I’d allow people to vote on who I should open up to.

Not a bad idea, but how about blind random choice? Ask Fire to generate a number between 2 and 10, ask her to post the number, and then open up to the player in that position. Unimpeachable, I’d say. Unless the leader is Merlin, what approach would be more beneficial for us loyal Knights?

Whomsoever gets the card can get a boost through the red tape, not just you. Unless you are special of course. Are you special?

The King has my finger!

I think that you are basically breaking the game at that point.

Really? If we were playing face to face, I could roll a die in front of all of you, for you to see, to make the choice. Lacking a die, I could toss coins to narrow to a choice. I could close my eyes, spin around, and nominate someone blindly. I could spin a knife or a pen on the table. So it can’t be against the rules.

For a loyal player without any knowledge, you’re basically making a random choice. Is the problem that this removes the ambiguity about whether it is truly random?

I’m not sure why anyone would believe someone’s claim that they chose randomly. I sure don’t.

Exactly and that’s a huge part of the game, figuring out the motivations between decisions. By bringing a neutral third party arbitrator in to essentially make everyone’s choices for them it takes away the vast majority of decisions which is the whole central part of the game. This is a game all about trust and asymmetric information knowledge, bringing in outside trusted parties fundamentally changes the entire game.

Speaking of cards, as I remember it, we’ve had the choice to use “Keeping a close eye on you” after the result of the mission has been announced. However, that isn’t really how it’s supposed to work - you use it to look at a mission card after it has been played, but before it has been shuffled and counted. So the order of play should be

  1. mission results are collected
  2. holder of “Keeping a close eye on you” gets the option to look at one vote
  3. mission results are posted

I guess for expediency, we might let the holder of the card PM the moderator to say if the card should be used and on whom at the same time that people are PM:ing in the mission results.

Yes, of course. But if in a face to face game, where I’m the first leader of the first quest, I employed a randomizing device of some kind to determine to whom I should reveal, would you say that I’d broken the game? I don’t think so - the very act of revealing that way would communicate information about me. Remember, we’re talking about a no-information choice, not every choice in the game. I’d not advocate that, because it would be silly once there was some information on which one could act.

I’m pretty sure that this immediately disqualifies all of the games in which I have been on the losing team.

I would like to play Open Up on Dave Perkins.

-xtien