BioShock

[Rock8man]

@Ginger_Yellow

It occurred to me just this morning, listening to a podcast discussion of Loki and how it supposedly sets up the next stage of the Marvel universe, that I just don’t have the nerd gene that wants this sort of expanded canon/lore. The whole idea of the Marvel universe turns me off - I like my stories to be self-contained, though I don’t have an issue with sequels (within reason). Even when I was into Star Wars as a kid, I only ever read one of the books, and it didn’t really do anything for me. The only time I’ve been even remotely tempted to read a book of a game was The Witcher, which a) doesn’t really count, and b) didn’t happen anyway. It simply wouldn’t even occur to me to seek out a novelisation of Doom. There’s all this lore for DotA, and I just don’t give a shit about it (and I gave up on the TV show after one episode).

I resemble this remark. I never felt the need to pick up novelizations for the same reason.

And though I am interested in further Star Wars and Star Trek series, since I’m a fan, I’m kind of mystified by the long discussion threads on Qt3 on the Marvel shows. Not that I begrudge them, I just find it puzzling that people spend so much time thinking about and discussing something that seems to be light entertainment. But I can also kind of see it. Huge long discussions in Star Wars threads used to puzzle me the same way until Episode VIII finally made me into a fan, and now I leap at the chance to participate in them. So I guess the Marvel movies must have touched something in people that made them genuine fans, whereas for me that I hasn’t happened (yet?).

[malkav11]

Most novelizations and tie-in novels are complete wastes of time. Not the Doom books. (The original quadrilogy, not the Doom 3 tie-in(s)? or anything since then.) They’re insane and wonderful.

[TheWombat]

On Your Feet or On Your Knees is indeed one of the best live albums in existence. Whether it’s “the best” I can’t really say; the Allmans’ Live at the Filmore East for example is also amazing, as is Skynyrd’s One More From the Road.

[Ginger_Yellow]

@Rock8man

I just find it puzzling that people spend so much time thinking about and discussing something that seems to be light entertainment.

See, this isn’t me. I’m perfectly happy spending ages thinking about and discussing, say, Firefly or BSG. I’m just content for that thinking and discussion to be about the “core” story in the original medium.

[Rock8man]

Yeah, I can see it for BSG as well, but I’m a fan, so it’s different. Plus I view it as a lot more than just light entertainment, personally, since it’s serious science fiction that’s reflecting on our own society and has amazing characters. But then, perhaps people feel the same about Marvel characters, so then it makes sense.

[Ginger_Yellow]

I guess the distinction I’m making is that it’s not about whether it’s light entertainment or something more serious - there’s plenty of nerdy stuff I love that I’ll freely admit is fluff. But whether it’s serious or light, I just don’t need it to be part of some larger universe. Whereas it seems like for a lot of people, having multiple stories that all tie together is a big fucking deal. For me, I find that having to make all these stories fit just compromises the individual stories.