Joss Whedon? Seriously?

haha, kinda. I learned long ago that any artist I like has probably been a gigantic cock monkey to several people. I’ve had to divorce my like of the person’s art from my like of the person.

It covers about 90% of the use cases. Even so, in Whedon’s case the only series he’s done I’ve really enjoyed is Firefly, and I keep forgetting it is a Whedon show anyway.

Yeah it doesn’t necessarily pay to look too closely at the private lives of your favorite creators unless you can live with the consequences. I mean, I’m still a fan of Woody Allen’s and Roman Polanski’s films despite their, uh, predilections. I love Harlan Ellison’s stories even though by all accounts the dude is just an asshole. Elvis Costello is one of my favorite musicians and he called Ray Charles a “blind old n-----” during a drunken rant. You’ve got to figure out what you’re comfortable knowing.

I thought the accusation wasn’t that he used being a feminist to get laid, but that he used it as a cover for his infidelities.

He’s not using vegan cred to get free steak, you’re walking into your dining room to find your steak is gone and Joss is wiping his face with a napkin saying “no one would believe it was me, I’m vegan!”

Yes, from what I knew about complex PTSD, what she described could not be a cause of it. I asked my partner who’s a psychologist (specialising in drug & alcoholic addicts referred for mandatory therapy as part of their probation) for what she knew about it. As I’m sure you can imagine, PTSD is a fairly common occurrence in her clients. Infidelity and domestic abuse are too.

The ‘complex’ in complex PTSD refers to a long running series of events as opposed to developing PTSD because of one or two events e.g. prolonged sexual abuse vs a rape. Simple infidelity is also not accepted by psychology as a discipline as being something that can cause PTSD. It simply doesn’t fit the criteria.

She cannot have PTSD due to her husband confessing to her that he had been cheating on her for 15 years, and certainly not complex PTSD. Being misdiagnosed is going to have seriously fucked with her healing process. There’s a bit of a difference between “You’re going to have trust issues” and “You have complex PTSD and may never fully recover”. It might help to partly explain why this letter after five years.

If you really want some absolute truth about a person, ask a former spouse they’ve gone through a tumultuous divorce with. I’m sure you’ll get nothing but objective answers.

Exactly.

How is this news? Gossip from a divorcee. I guess because Whedon is some sort of nerd-god this got outside the confines of In-touch magazine?

I haven’t read any of it, and why would I? Who would air their dirty laundry out in public like this? It is gross.

I don’t even care if it’s true. He cheated on his wife, big whoop. Who gives a shit?

I am far less interested in whether or not Whedon cheated or was a total dick to his wife than I am in figuring out why a whole hell of a lot of people are seriously worked up over the whole deal.

I am not going to touch that.

What a hypocritical asshole. I love Buffy and Firefly and will enjoy whatever good work he puts out. Still, assuming his wife is not making shit up (and I have no reason to think she does), he is was a total asshole to her.

Yeah, he’s human. I certainly would think twice before getting engaged to him. Beyond that, don’t give a shit.

Do you think Whedon’s work is this great shining example of feminism and great in large part over how he actually gets women and writes them as human beings he respects? This might interest you.

No? Carry on as usual then…

Not me. I can change him!!!

I’ll take it one step further and add “in Hollywood”, where such behavior is damn near expected. People who work in television and movies are surrounded by very attractive people every single day, many of whom are more than willing to fool around with their coworkers, especially if they think it will gain them any sort of advantage. It has to be ridiculously difficult to stay in a committed relationship under those circumstances. I have a couple of friends who have worked in television, just low level stuff, and the stories even they tell are jaw dropping. It gets worse the higher up the ladder you go.

I also see no reason why having affairs invalidates Joss Whedon’s work supporting feminism. Whedon is know for creating and promoting strong female characters. I seriously doubt it was all a long con to sleep with hot actresses. More than likely, it’s not a case of Whedon abusing his power as producer so much as it’s a case of the Hollywood shuffle. Whedon has a rep for producing hit shows, especially ones that feature women in prominent roles, and a rep for being easy to work with and an overall nice guy by Hollywood standards. This makes him an attractive producer/director for aspiring actresses to work with. Get on a Whedon show and your career could really take off. Cement the deal by having a fling with him, and his contact list is now yours to take advantage of as long as you part on good terms. Hollywood shuffle.

Exactly. Humans aren’t one-dimensional. It’s possible to strongly believe women are equal to men, deeply and profoundly and truly respect women, and also cheat on your wife. That doesn’t make him a hypocrite, it makes him weak.

Glass houses and stones. He faced great temptation. I don’t know I would behave differently in the same scenario. I hope I would.

I’m not sure that expression means what you think it means.

I’m hearing mixed messages in this thread, so I just want to make one thing clear once and for all: do you or do you not care that Joss Whedon cheated on his wife?

Please tell it to me straight. I’m not getting it.

I’m mostly just pissed Joss Whedon didn’t cheat on his wife with me. Gimme dat sweet lumpy balding man-action!

Numfar! Do the Dance of Shame!

Googling that only strengthens my resolve to not watch Buffy. . .