League of Legends: Official Thread

[MrCoffee]

There is no need to tell you that, you said it yourself!

[slantz]

@MrCoffee

You don’t build revolver? it sounds nice on him.

I, for one, build revolver first on Rumble. Tons of AP and the lifesteal gives him a lot of staying power in the early game. (And, for that matter, the rest of the game too.)

[forgeforsaken]

@slantz

I, for one, build revolver first on Rumble. Tons of AP and the lifesteal gives him a lot of staying power in the early game. (And, for that matter, the rest of the game too.)

I’ve been doing this for a while with him and it works well. I’ve been yelled at a few times in game that I don’t know what I’m doing building that first though, go figure.

[Lazy_Shiftless_Basta]

@skyride

If there are no other junglers, should Alistar jungle? Can he start at blue without help?

No and no. He doesn’t really do enough damage at the start of the game to jungle well. That’s why people “roam” with him, that is they start in a lane and then wander off to try ganking other lanes.

[slantz]

@forgeforsaken

I’ve been doing this for a while with him and it works well. I’ve been yelled at a few times in game that I don’t know what I’m doing building that first though, go figure.

Story of my life when it comes to this game.

Fuck the haters.

[Pogo]

@slantz

Yup. Though by the nature of your question, I fully expect to be told how that’s something only a noob would do, how I suck at the game, and/or how I’m throwing the game away for my team by doing so.

You know, I’m with you a little here. People lane Warwick a bit nowadays because he’s still a champ that can bring something to the table even if he lanes.

The reasons for jungling are sort of clear, both WW and Olaf have high mana costs on their abilities but are actually very weak harassers in a lane. Warwick clears a jungle very quickly, while Olaf has a powerful slow and is a veritable pain in the ass with red buff while also being a great late-game bruiser.

But you can still kick some ass with them in lane. Olaf’s axe throw is terrible at harassment because it just eats through mana, but it’s a great slow that does good damage at low levels. There’s nothing more fun than executing a runner with that axe throw. I’m pretty sure it’s the most fulfilling action in the game, actually, right up there with landing some ridiculous Ashe arrow.

So fuck these guys. If you have fun with Olaf in lane, fucking do it. I’ve seen it done just fine at levels of play where people aren’t yet stigmatized by their peers for daring to lane a “jungle champ.”

[McKnight]

@JoshV

Where are you getting the 120 damage from? (Rumble Build Guides :: League of Legends Strategy Builds, Runes and Items)
He does 40 damage over 3 seconds at level 1. So 120 total, and thats if the opponent started and stayed in the flame the entire time. (it will do 30% more if he’s in ‘The Danger Zone’, but good luck getting that at level 1, nor is it very reliable) A good opponent can easily still get last hits on minions, and ranged attackers won’t even notice the flame.

And Irelia gets lifesteal and a stun, Jarvan has better physical damage. If someone knocks up Rumble, his facing spins, so Alistair for instance can pretty easily mess with him. Singed’s Poison does very similar damage, and doesn’t have that issue, and works while fleeing. Most other characters have instant damage, that isn’t quite so avoidable.

Don’t get me wrong, Rumble doesn’t suck, but I don’t think he’s overpowered. Especially compared to say, Alistair. Ammu, is in many ways still the better tank, with two stuns, one being an AoE stun, and an AoE that does % health damage to whack tanks and hurt squishies.

Actually the most reliable time to get overheat is lvl 1, every Rumble will charge their flame to gain heat above 50% and keep it there quite easily until lvl 2.

And Rumble’s Ultimate is the most broken part of his kit, everything else is fine. I’m fine with a champ having an amazing early game but not in combination with a game deciding ultimate.

[idrisz]

So fuck these guys. If you have fun with Olaf in lane, fucking do it. I’ve seen it done just fine at levels of play where people aren’t yet stigmatized by their peers for daring to lane a “jungle champ.”

you guys blame me for laning nocturne… /sadface…

[McKnight]

@skyride

If there are no other junglers, should Alistar jungle? Can he start at blue without help?

Yes, he can start Blue no problem however he will need a leash (but then again your jungle should always get a leash, it’s free and helps them out a ton). He jungles at a pretty average pace though, and I’d dedicate my time to ganking and more specifically counter-jungling. Like a Roaming Alistar except you have Smite so can grab easy xp, won’t be as underleveled and can steal buffs far easier.

But I would advise ceding the jungle whenever possible, he’s far better off either as a Support in lane or as a Roamer.

[forgeforsaken]

@Pogo

But you can still kick some ass with them in lane. Olaf’s axe throw is terrible at harassment because it just eats through mana, but it’s a great slow that does good damage at low levels. There’s nothing more fun than executing a runner with that axe throw. I’m pretty sure it’s the most fulfilling action in the game, actually, right up there with landing some ridiculous Ashe arrow.

Kog’Maw ult for a kill into fog of war is right up there.

[McKnight]

@slantz

Yup. Though by the nature of your question, I fully expect to be told how that’s something only a noob would do, how I suck at the game, and/or how I’m throwing the game away for my team by doing so.

Unless you are specifically trying to be the best player in the game, no-one really should care who you play in lane. At lower skill level lane match-ups matter far less then skill level and if you are good with the champ (and you are because I’ve played with your Olaf a ton) and have fun in lane then fucking go for it.

However Olaf is one of the better junglers in the game, as he has the fastest clear time bar none and snowballs pretty hard. Just something that might be worth trying out? I’m a bit biased because I jungle a ton and love it :)

Lazy WW is really, really slow in the jungle.

[JoshV]

@McKnight

Actually the most reliable time to get overheat is lvl 1, every Rumble will charge their flame to gain heat above 50% and keep it there quite easily until lvl 2.

And Rumble’s Ultimate is the most broken part of his kit, everything else is fine. I’m fine with a champ having an amazing early game but not in combination with a game deciding ultimate.

How is his Ult any worse than Amumu’s or Galio’s?

[slantz]

@McKnight

However Olaf is one of the better junglers in the game, as he has the fastest clear time bar none and snowballs pretty hard. Just something that might be worth trying out? I’m a bit biased because I jungle a ton and love it :)

Much appreciated on the friendly delivery. =)

I have actually tried it, and the truth is I’d need to do it a lot more in order to get fluent at it before I could use it in a real game. But since I play w/ my wife so much and she generally prefers to lane w/ me, jungling isn’t generally isn’t in the cards. I tend to go melee DPS and she almost always plays Twisted Fate. She gold cards, then I rush in and do tons of damage, often applying my own slow or stunning when her gold card stun runs out. This often translates into a dead enemy champion when we focus on them.

Anyway, here’s an Olaf guide I wrote that describes my particular style that I use when laning w/ my wife.

[Lazy_Shiftless_Basta]

@McKnight

Lazy WW is really, really slow in the jungle.

What?

[MrCoffee]

Think he meant Bunny.

how do you stun with olaf? >.>

[Therlun]

@Lazy Shiftless Bastard

What?

He used the adjective I think. As in “WW is lazy”.
I’m all for pointing out how annoying Mcknight is, but you two are too entangled to speak with each other.

[slantz]

@MrCoffee

how do you stun with olaf? >.>

There are some other champs I use that can stun, like Irelia. I was talking about our general tactics there (her as TF, me as dps – usually melee) and not just specifically about Olaf.

[SlyFrog]

@Therlun

He used the adjective I think. As in “WW is lazy”.
I’m all for pointing out how annoying Mcknight is, but you two are too entangled to speak with each other.

Yeah, but I don’t have any idea what this means either (and am curious, as I play Warwick, including as a jungler, a fair bit).

What is Lazy Warwick, or what does “Warwick is lazy” mean?

[JoshV]

@slantz

There are some other champs I use that can stun, like Irelia. I was talking about our general tactics there (her as TF, me as dps – usually melee) and not just specifically about Olaf.

Two of the most annoying lanes to deal with are double stun and/or double heal.

[bluemax]

@Anti-Bunny

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