Neo Nazis and the Alt Right


#2505

That’s irrelevant to the fact that you lied to deflect being wrong. Why wouldn’t I focus on the fact that another forum poster is lying in their replies to me?

Why would I go back to the redeemable argument when you’ve shown you’re happy to lie if I provide something you find uncomfortable?

It’s arguable that post-WW2 Germany is what it is today because the post-Nazi government excluded former Nazis from power and banned the rise of new Nazis.

Somehow became

First I thought your argument was shitty because modern Germany excludes Nazis from power.

Strange, even the tense changes!

I’m making things up, even when I can quote you lying. What’s next to avoid being wrong, sacrificing your firstborn?


#2506

I did, in fact, think you were referring to Germany in general, rather than focusing on a brief moment in its immediate postwar history.

Because really, who gives a crap what Germany was doing in 1946 when it’s pretty obvious what happened to former Nazis afterwards?

Germany did exclude Nazis from power, and this did happen in the past, and that is my entire point.


#2507

And yet the tense changes. And yet you continued to make the same argument even after I posted about the 1940s-1960s. You even replied to antlers, referring to the same period. Modern only suddenly appeared right at the very end.

What happened to former Nazis afterwards?

They became Secretary General of the UN?

They became Chancellor of West Germany?

They became Prime Minister of West Germany?

They made up 79% of Supreme Court judges in West Germany?

Right. The difference between someone not knowing something, and someone being ignorant of something is being amply demonstrated by you.

And now, the 1940s-1960s (1970s in some cases) equals “its immediate postwar history”. Yet again you twist the argument.

Anything to avoid being wrong. Anything!

I would have been happy to argue about why I believed Nazis were in most cases redeemable, but you dragged us into this tangent because you simply would not accept that you were wrong, even in the face of proof.

P.S.

My first post:

Or you know, major parts of both the East and West German’ governments who remained largely run by former Nazis well up into the 70s (and later).
Former nazis played a large part in forming the organisation that would become the European Union, former nazis would play large parts in re-arming west Germany and joining NATO. Given that former nazis made up 1/3rd of the German population, former Nazis undoubtedly played a role in everything positive that came from West Germany post WW2.

My second post:

Post WW2 Germany would suggest Nazi’s are eminently redeemable, and it’s possible to quickly and effectively rehabilitate Nazis who actually murdered, killed and supported the killings of others.

Your first post:

the post-Nazi government excluded former Nazis from power and banned the rise of new Nazis.

My third post provided the spiegel link and quotes about former Nazis’ involvement in West Germany from the 40s to the 60s

Your second post:

Your quotes simply show that it is very difficult to replace a bureaucracy overnight. But the motivation is clear: Nazis were not welcomed with open arms, they were begrudgingly hired when there was no other choice.

Your third post:

I’ll spell it out: you said that former Nazis were redeemable, and provided immediate postwar Germany as an example. But that’s simply an example of pragmatism.

Your sixth post:

As for me, I still think your example is worthless. And I still think that modern Germany is what it is today because modern Germany excludes former Nazis from power.

Your eight post:

First I thought your argument was shitty because modern Germany excludes Nazis from power.

I’m sorry, but there’s no way you aren’t lying about this.


#2508

I may choose my hills to die on poorly, but at least I didn’t choose this one.

Apparently the entire argument revolves around whether 1945 - 1960 can be considered “modern” Germany. I’m thinking… nope? It is currently 2017, so 1965 would be more than 50 years ago.

I suggest taking up some other hobby @kedaha.


#2509

I really dislike people who lie in arguments, what can I say. Apparently I prefer Nazis to them.


#2510

I don’t care who’s right or wrong but your tone is intolerable. Therefore, you don’t win anything today, bub.


#2511

Yeah, that’s right. Bub.


#2512

I’m afraid bub doesn’t really translate across the Atlantic, but I appreciate the sentiment nonetheless.

Should we get back to talking about punching people now?


#2513


#2514

You never read Wolverine? What is wrong with you, bub?

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#2515

There is no Prime Minister of West Germany. Why are you lying?


#2516

I usually just skim/skip through the pissing matches these days on the board, but this comment was just priceless. LOL. Well done.


#2517

I hate to defend former Nazis but Werner von Braun is the elephant giant moon rocket in the room in this argument

I’m still willing to shoot all your Neo-Nazis and live with the minute chance I take out the Mars 2040 mission though. A good compromise no?


#2518

The meme is titled, “immer dieser Amerikaner,” or “always these Americans.”


#2519

wouldn’t bub imply claws, Swiss cheese, and excessively long combos, ?


#2520

#iunderstoodthatreference


#2521

Maybe they can send over some Stasi veterans to teach us about censorship.


#2522

Just a nice reminder: Nazi punks fuck off!


#2523

I got a psychic flash that someone in this thread has never kissed a girl, but has a poster of Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS, tacked to the ceiling above his bed. Fess up, who is it?


#2524

Well… I’ve kissed a girl so I guess I don’t count.