Star Citizen - Chris Roberts, lots of spaceship porn, lots of promises

BiggerBoat · 2017-09-13T23:11:13.895Z

Lantz:

The actual promises for the game from CIG are laughable but for a scary lot of people it’s just the tip of the iceberg.

Yeah, it’s egged on by all of the articles Star Citizen was posting a couple of years ago (not sure if they continue to do this) for various careers. Miners. Explorers. Farmers. Doctors. Etc. Etc.

No one is going to be space farming in Star Citizen, but I’m sure they made a decent amount of money when they sold the utility ship concept with the farming module like two years ago.

dsmart · 2017-09-13T23:34:53.917Z

Three Star Citizen whales just refunded three Completionist packages to the tune of $45K

ps: The Completionist still doesn’t include the Idris capital ship btw. Getting a Completionist, allows you to buy it. For $2.5K. I’m dying if I’m lying.

Afrolex · 2017-09-13T23:46:08.104Z

dsmart:

ps: The Completionist still doesn’t include the Idris capital ship btw. Getting a Completionist, allows you to buy it. For $2.5K. I’m dying if I’m lying.

How does $15K not get you anything and everything to do with this game. For that much money it should include a hummer from CR himself.

KevinC · 2017-09-14T00:09:42.675Z

BiggerBoat:

I thought their “season” releases would be a year apart, and we’re about to head into year 3 for Horizons.

I think your dates are off? Horizons released in December 2015, so still under 2 years since release.

BiggerBoat · 2017-09-14T00:22:55.615Z

KevinC:

I think your dates are off? Horizons released in December 2015, so still under 2 years since release.

Yeah, poorly worded on my part. January 2018 will start what I would have thought would be season 3, and we are still on season 1. I miss the old days of cool previews and rapid-fire updates.

RichVR · 2017-09-14T00:29:40.172Z

@dsmart I so desperately wanted to get into BC3000. But by the time that I got a copy I was past the grognard/vertical learning curve thing. That doesn’t speak to your work. Only to my inability to grasp the the paradigm. And I’m guessing that an easier version of that game (and your newer ones) will never exist.

It actually seems to be the same for Grimoire. Not that I’m comparing them.

I’m just too old to drown in a game anymore. I hope you understand.

dsmart · 2017-09-14T00:43:46.865Z

RichVR:

I so desperately wanted to get into BC3000. But by the time that I got a copy I was past the grognard/vertical learning curve thing. That doesn’t speak to your work. Only to my inability to grasp the the paradigm. And I’m guessing that an easier version of that game (and your newer ones) will never exist.

It actually seems to be the same for Grimoire. Not that I’m comparing them.

I’m just too old to drown in a game anymore. I hope you understand.

Oh absolutely. Now you know why I retired from make those kind of games once my install base decided to grow up. :)

meeper · 2017-09-14T01:25:27.363Z

Lantz:

One group of people are talking about how they think that at some point the base package won’t even have a ship and so new players will have to work as cargo loaders to try and impress captains to be hired on as crew to work their way up to finally buying a ship.

This genuinely had me make a sad face for all the people who believe it.

dsmart · 2017-09-14T01:28:16.487Z

meeper:

One group of people are talking about how they think that at some point the base package won’t even have a ship and so new players will have to work as cargo loaders to try and impress captains to be hired on as crew to work their way up to finally buying a ship.

This genuinely had me make a sad face for all the people who believe it.

Oh please, that’s nuthin’. They’ve had sex slaves and such in their dreamscape for years now. No, I’m not kidding.

meeper · 2017-09-14T01:48:44.582Z

There are no doubt more extreme examples, but this particular one hits close to him in that it’s exactly the kind of thing 14 year old me would have dreamed about during a geography class.

It’s the sort of thing I’d have fallen for if, you know, I hadn’t become an adult.

dsmart · 2017-09-14T13:15:55.772Z

A Star Citizen Player has Just Successfully Received a $45,000 Refund

dsmart · 2017-09-14T17:33:55.889Z

Star Citizen going Early Access and what that means

Telefrog · 2017-09-14T17:51:54.466Z

In the case of Star Citizen, it can be said that it went into early access back in Aug 2013 when the first hangar module was released to backers.

This is what I always assumed, which is why all their talk about this now going early access is so puzzling to me.

dsmart · 2017-09-14T18:02:48.282Z

Telefrog:

This is what I always assumed, which is why all their talk about this now going early access is so puzzling to me.

Yeah, but if you think of the big picture, and why they’re doing it now, it’s not that hard to see what they’re planning. It’s all about refunds and also not having a final release date anymore. So they can collapse slowly and over time. They can have one studio and 4 guys working from home, and still say they’re in dev.

Telefrog · 2017-09-14T18:04:37.330Z

dsmart:

Yeah, but if you think of the big picture, and why they’re doing it now, it’s not that hard to see what they’re planning. It’s all about refunds and also not having a final release date anymore.

Oh, I understand the strategy you outlined. I was just taken aback when I read the early access stuff from Roberts after Gamescom. It all seems so nutty.

dsmart · 2017-09-14T18:09:04.966Z

Tired of waiting, Star Citizen guild gets a $45,000 refund

“Children that were born when Star Citizen was first announced are now approaching Kindergarten” <-- LOL!

MarinusWA · 2017-09-14T20:35:23.258Z

That article now says the amount is fake according to CIG. The plot thickens!

Brooski · 2017-09-14T20:38:41.729Z

My question is: did anyone at Ars Technical even try to confirm the story?(Whether it isn’t actually true or not, did anyone even call CIG?)

kerzain · 2017-09-14T23:28:35.264Z

Here’s the update text added to the article:

[quote]Update: Cloud Imperium spokesperson Dave Swofford tells Ars that “a lot of the information was fabricated” in the Reddit post discussed the below. Swofford says the account in question was issued an individual refund of $330, not the $45,000 claimed in posted screenshots and videos which Swofford says do not reflect actual complaints requests logged by the company. What’s more, Swofford says the refund was handled “in a timely fashion” with “no extended debate over whether we should.”
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dsmart · 2017-09-15T01:14:49.939Z

MarinusWA:

That article now says the amount is fake according to CIG. The plot thickens!

To me, it’s only fake if 1) we believe CIG 2) the guy comes clean. We’ve checked, and if it is indeed fake, then this person, for whatever reason, went to great lengths to do it.