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What made SOTS really good… now that’s a very good question @rhamorim My opinion is that it wasn’t so much as to what specific mechanics amounted, like having several different FTL methods, but rather the effect those had in how you approached the game and how well it was all clicking together. You could totally have one single FTL method and still introduce assymetry linked to “species” and “civic” traits. For instance, having humans a weird lethargy as they “jump”, following the lead of C. J. Cherryh’s books on the “Pact” universe.

Still, the main issue with Stellaris is also its major strength: its eclecticism when it comes to incorporate gameplay components. Eclecticism, in my opinion, is the pathway to true innovation. Eventually, given enough perseverance, it all clicks together and what used to be perceived as a pastiche, becomes a new style. In the meantime, you get weird concoctions which are unsatisfying to various degrees.

The new thing is that this process of iteration over designs, which used to take place behind closed doors, now it is happening in the open, funded by interested parties. PDX (or PDS) doesn’t make games in the traditional way… they’re taking us along for the ride (for a fee, of course!).

EDIT: Actually, Kerberos pioneered this iterative approach to design, with the first SOTS, as other have rightly pointed out already.

It’s going to be hard being stuck in the office all day tomorrow while other people are posting impressions in this thread. However, I’ll comfort myself knowing you’ll all be beta testing the inevitable hotfix for me!

I’m in the same boat, but on holiday from tomorrow for 2 weeks. Going to skip a hour or two of possible play time tonight and sit on it until I’m back - I figure it’s a good chance to start after the 1-2 hot fixes!

The posters they released are pretty sweet -

(they’re over here)

It will. For my own games I recreated all the species from Ascendancy, which turn out to cover all the ethic bases just fine.

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Players in Europe waiting for U.S. patch release times…

I got my pre-order code from the Paradox store a few hours ago! It isn’t available yet of course, but it’s cool to see it “in library” all the same.

Doesn’t it unlock at the same time for everyone globally, at 3pm CET?

Think so, if that’s 1 hour from now. Because that’s how long we have to go here!

Just got a 387Mb update, so giving it a try.

It’s out on Steam now. I loaded it and it says Cherryh 2.0 on the start menu.

I got to work at 5:30 AM. Gonna be a loooooooong day. :(

I hear you.

I may wait until the weekend. I fully expect there to be some huge bug that none of us can believe made it through QA that requires a hotfix. Seems like par for the course nowadays.

Huge bug? Singular? :)

I’m expecting a few whoppers, but I’m still planning on diving in after work. I’ll just consider it a throwaway game to experiment with the new additions.

Damn I love the soundtrack to this game.

Glad to see stellaris is finally out of early access…ergo I bought it during the sale…its ok to get in the water now

Yeah, it’s been many, many months since I played it last. I started a 2.0 game this morning.

I agree that the soundtrack is amazing. I was just thinking about that as I played. Also, they really nailed the early exploration phase of the game. It’s just so good.

So far, I’m kind of liking the 2.0 hyperlanes. It gives structure and focus to your expansion. I’ve been building chokepoint starbases in nearby systems to expand my borders and protect my home system. I picked Prosperity as my first Tradition because, why not.

Pah, if 2.0 counts as out of early access they’re hardly trying. Star Citizen is at 3.0 already, and they’re still years away from leaving early access!

Warframe is at version 22.X and they’re still in beta!