VR - Is it really going to be a success? Or, thanks Time for starting a discussion!

I think there’s a few main choices, but it depends a bit on what you want to play.

Do you want a primarily portable system, that can also connect to PC at the cost of a bit of comfort and fidelity?

  • Get a Quest.

If you’re sticking to the PC for mostly seated stuff, or tethered close proximity:

  • Do you want the best fidelity? Get Valve Index.
  • Do you want the best value, support, and simplicity? Get Rift S.

I broke down and bought a Vive DAS and made myself a FrankenQuest. Surprisingly easy mod and it looks attractive. I really appreciate the ease of adjusting it for other users and the built in headphones, but I have to say it’s only marginally more comfortable (for me) over a stock Quest setup (with counterweight) so I’m not sure it’s worth the expense. I even added a counterweight to the DAS. (I used leftover materials from the FrankenQuest mod, so it looks attractive too) and that helps but still isn’t a gigantic improvement. I suspect it may be somewhat due to the shape of my head.

Is valve fiddly? I checked out the Rift s briefly, and also see a ton of wires.
I am guessing thats to be expected?

As long as it isn’t as annoying as the Wii or the PS3 weird system where you had to put something on top of the tv.

Rift S should have two cables. USB and video. Well from what I can see, it’s al combined into one, and then it splits into two at the end, when it connects to the computer.

Index will have that, and two satellite stations you have to put in corners of your room. Hence more setup.

If you want no cables then Quest is the solution.

VR E3 stream in 50 mins

Rift S has one cable! :D
It has two connectors coming out, one goes to Display Port and one to USB.

Any highlights that stand out to you?

Overview can be seen here in case people aren’t following other E3 threads.

Haven’t had a chance to watch everything yet but at a glance it all seems a bit underwhelming. Shooters, content updates, and ports.

In Death coming to Quest though, that’s one I’d probably double dip on assuming it’s not already cross-buy.

And Operencia is a well-regarded blobber, but I don’t think VR would necessarily add a lot to it. Cool none the less.

I thought the same about Operencia, blobbers as you call it are by definition games that work thanks to some abstraction, and VR is usually the opposite of abstraction.

I think the best case scenario for you would be the Quest. You get the portability, no-wire experience when you want. But you can also hook it up to your laptop to play non-Quest games whenever you like via Oculus Link.

The first thing to notice is what it was missing: no Beat Saber new DLC, no Lone Echo 2, no Medal of Honor VR. It seems Oculus only participated a bit. Maybe MoH will appear on the EA showcase.

The free update for Walking Dead could be good. Horde mode and difficulty options.
Vacation Simulator will also have a free DLC.
Wraith could be good, but we won’t see a real trailer until August.
Paper Beast looks chill, there is demo in Steam

Panther is too early in EA, from what I can see in the reviews

This is an adventure game that looks nice. scifi murder mystery?

The radio show looks like a nice idea

This is totally the 0 grav version of Gadgeteer, that I like

Another cool adventure

Cosmophobia could be a better, scifi version of Dreadhalls

This one looks ambitious, too much imo, I don’t trust it

Vertigo was interesting and varied. It seems a remaster of something I don’t know

Pistol Whip is promising tons of new updates, although I suspect the more meaty aspects will be paid dlc

So in summary nothing super big, Oculus is hiding his cards close to the chest, EA has two VR games so maybe they will present it later, maybe Ubi that have shown interest in VR before will do the same on their showcase.

Low-fi looks like a nice environment, but really empty. Even the gameplay description doesn’t say you’re actually doing much, like flying around handing out tickets and basically ‘other stuff’. It is available on Itch though for any brave souls with $35 to burn…

Yeah Ubi have their Prince of Persia escape room thing and possibly Oculus-exclusive Splinter Cell and Assassin’s Creed games. Maybe we see more on those.

Great get for Oculus. Lone Echo + Echo Arena happens to be one of the best SP experiences + one of the best esports experiences in VR.

And Lone Echo 2 is practically done, was delayed until later this year. I wonder if this will push it back any more?

They will allow a new way to sideload apps. Through a link, from what I read.

If money isn’t the top concern, the HTC Cosmos Elite with the wireless adapter and the Valve Index controllers is my current setup. No wires at all, lightbox tracking for highest tracking performance, and the valve index controllers for most buttons and grips. But it is NOT cheap.

ohhh…that sounds interesting! I am going to wait a few months, and then see - prices are probably just going to get better and better. Thanks!

Good stuff, we should see a lot more content, even if it’s not curated!

Though I guess the concern is that this will allow them to try and remove Sidequest, which would still have its uses for those… less savoury applications, that don’t necessarily want to abide by the Oculus platform and content policies that will apply to this new method.

The question is whether they remove sideloading entirely, which would largely impact piracy and porno.

I don’t think they are changing that. Very possibly it will mean Sidequest will be a Quest app that is easier to install, in fact. I think it’s still sideloading, that’s the method that Sidequest utilizes. Just with a layer of polish and ease of use.

They are not controlling or curating anything, so porno should be able to also make their own apps…