This game has no future whatsoever, its too far away from where it needs to be to be able to fixed. They should have known better, but its easy to get ambitious in the wrong direction I guess.
Have you played it recently to say this? Genuine question and not a smart-ass thingie :-) Some people do seem to enjoy it, you see!
15 or so posts above this (5 months ago) Janster is applying for a refund so my guess is no. :)
Look, put some hours into it, it sucked then, and the changes it need will require more than a patch for me. This game is a weaker less featured version of privateer. You have almost no upgrade options for the ship…bleh
It has had 19 patches or so by now? And there are more options now for the ship, which is why I asked whether you’ve played it recently. Sure - just like Rome:Tw 2 it sucked majorly at launch, but Rome:TW 2 is actually in pretty good shape by now, and several people are reporting the game has improved immensely.
Hmm, well if you say so, might pick it up again on a sale one say then, and yes, Rome is much improved, but last night I had to sit at max speed until battle was over because the AI didn’t start the siege. I went out and engaged, but nothing helped, also massive slowdowns during sieges…sooooo I’m not happy yet there either.
Ouch - that sounds nasty. I played…a few weeks ago I think, and it did reasonably well actually - I did read some people complaining about siege AI so there is that.
As for X Rebirth itself - I’m going to play once the current 2.0 edition I think they call it, is out and I’ll report back here :-)
Whenever I’ve looked at the patch notes, the bulk of them have been about fixing bugs. While Rebirth was definitely riddled with bugs and needed the fixes, it would still be a terrible game even if they were all eliminated. There really was no game there. I mean, sure, you have this spaceship and fly around, but there was no point to any of the game systems. You can go about and earn money (most efficiently by looking lockers in stations for random trash), great. Too bad there was really nothing to do with said money. Ship upgrades were practically non-existent and what little was there was extremely boring. Oh, awesome, I replaced my Laser with a Laser II, and now that’s the end of gun upgrades. Yay.
Anyway, given the complete lack of… well… game in the game, I’m extremely skeptical they were able to put one in there in one patch, regardless of what version number they would like to call it. Unfortunately, it is lightyears away from even being remotely as good as X3 (which had it’s own host of issues and problems). I just don’t think this game is salvageable with patching, they need a massive overhaul of the entire thing, if not a new game completely. Maybe 2.0 is such a complete overhaul but again, I’m skeptical.
Nope. Installed, played for two hours. Same bland game. Nothing here but some rough idea for a game that will never happen. Sad but true. Egosoft screwed themselves on this one.
Fixed.
And what a bad time to do that! Star Citizen, Elite: Dangerous and Limit Theory right around the corner. I wonder IF it was because of those that they felt they had to (seemingly) rush this out like they did? Sure i understand there were other concerns like the console version not getting the go ahead and financial pressures this put on them, but what a time to even think putting out the game they did was the only thing to do!
I liked most of the X games (X2 and X3 being my favourites, and with some mods they were/are great games in the genre) and was really happy that they were around when no other games were really doing the big open world space thing, BUT. What a way to pretty much destroy your franchise and company! It is (sadly) going to be incredibly difficult for Egosoft to recover from this, not impossible, but pretty improbable. They would have to do something like Stardock did with Fallen Enchantress and give a new (much better) game away to those that bought this game, something in that kind of ball park, to get some of the player trust back.
Apparently there’s a new go-to mod for X3:AP: http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=365706&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Among the “features” is the fact it runs better than the basic game, especially for big battles, while it should retain the bells and whistles of the other mods.
Arise once again!
New patch to be out soon, and they announced an expansion to be released in december.
The expansion is free for owners of X-Rebirth UNTIL the 1st of November, so go get it now from steam.
Version 2.50 - To be released soon
• New Feature: New side-bar based main menu.
• New Feature: External camera view.
• New Feature: Free look in cockpit.
• New Feature: New shipyards for small and medium sized ships.
• Added Drone Hunt generic mission.
• Added Protection Detail generic mission.
• Added Diplomatic Aid mission chain.
• Added respawning of specialists with increasing hire fees.
• Added incoming remotely ordered wares to item trader menu.
• Added auto-refuel setting.
• Added small ship traders.
• Added primary shields to large ships which did not already have them.
• Added “civil war” behaviour between Pluatrch and Heart of Albion in Albion.
• Added ability to replace destroyed CVs so that station construction can can continue.
• Added ability to assign ships to other ships of same size or to any large ship.
• Added option to choose between stopping and maintaining speed while in menus.
• Added event monitor display to drone control mode.
• Added target elements for player-owned small ships.
• Added statistic for storage modules hacked.
• Added crash report option with privacy settings.
• Improved event monitor with “picture-in-picture” mode.
• Improved hacking gameplay.
• Improved engine animation and effects.
• Improved ship AI behaviour in numerous situations.
• Improved generation of mission enemies.
• Improved “Assign new superior” command.
• Improved ability menu to show when a drone is unavailable.
• Improved mission target indicator to point always to the closest mission target.
• Improved trade offers menu (shopping list is included in ship cargo).
• Improved docking behaviour of drones.
• Improved build tree menu user experience.
• Improved several mission briefings.
• Improved Open Comm Link menu in legacy main menu.
• Improved scan time for police scanning illegal activities.
• Improved lifetime of containers dropped from cargo bays.
• Improved remote controlled player drones flying back to the player ship.
• Improved rendering of distant objects to reduce flickering slightly.
• Improved Mission Bar so it no longer obstructs menus.
• Improved crash report content to help us find and fix causes of crashes.
• Fixed several plot and other mission issues.
• Fixed player ship cover faction not being reset from Xenon after plot.
• Fixed player ships returned during the plot being inactive.
• Fixed incorrect Player relations with Plutarch.
• Fixed Reiver reputation not being mutual in new games.
• Fixed drones not being able to return to their home base.
• Fixed an issue with station expansions not completing out-of-sector.
• Fixed multiple ship dealers per platform.
• Fixed escort ships disappearing after loading a savegame.
• Fixed a pathing issue for ships flying to stations.
• Fixed an issue with gas collectors not collecting.
• Fixed production module animations being stuck after having been out-of-sector.
• Fixed incorrect AI ship behaviour after having been forced out of a highway.
• Fixed several problems with drone docking.
• Fixed problems with transport drones not picking up containers.
• Fixed drones failing to get a new commander if theirs is destroyed.
• Fixed several mining bugs (resource gathering, movement, searching…).
• Fixed cases of player drones getting lost when you enter a highway.
• Fixed police not detecting illegal cargo in player inventory in many cases.
• Fixed station building not proceeding correctly when not in the player zone.
• Fixed refuel budget menu assuming that the trader has no money.
• Fixed case where build resources are requested for the playership.
• Fixed problem involving disappearing wares.
• Fixed managers pestering the player for money.
• Fixed stuck trade offers and refunded money to all participants.
• Fixed shields not protecting surface elements on several ships in Omicron Lyrae.
• Fixed mining drones not picking up asteroids in some cases.
• Fixed ships getting stuck waiting for drones.
• Fixed some ships not shooting at large objects.
• Fixed some trade ships ignoring trade opportunities for extended periods of time.
• Fixed storage calculations for intermediate products that caused storage requirements to be vastly overestimated.
• Fixed exploit allowing repeated instantly-profitable trades on shipyards.
• Fixed temporary loss of faction discounts when temporarily losing reputation.
• Fixed remote transport drones ending up in the player squad.
• Fixed station-to-station trades sometimes ending prematurely.
• Fixed dropped inventory items being picked up again immediately.
• Fixed picked-up objects disappearing due to timeout.
• Fixed several problems associated with hacking gameplay.
• Fixed mining drones being unable to return to some capital ships.
• Fixed Split “Gangrene Chaser” turrets disappearing and allow re-building.
• Fixed upgrade resources being counted twice for building.
• Fixed upgrade level rounding issues resulting in incorrect upgrade counts.
• Fixed ship category in encyclopedia for Hermod, Light Sul and Heavy Sul.
• Fixed inconsistent upgrade counts between encyclopedia and ship dealer.
• Fixed player ship selectable in Assign to Commander conversation.
• Fixed unidentified station modules having a name in the map.
• Fixed being able to remote comm NPCs in the same room.
• Fixed offset mouse position in borderless window mode.
• Fixed mouse confinement when starting the game in borderless window mode.
• Fixed minor button selection bugs in menus.
• Fixed issues with scrolling down in some menu tables.
• Fixed automatically changing selection in map menu.
• Fixed initial button selection in menus not being highlighted.
• Fixed rare cases of hotkey buttons not working.
• Fixed occasional freeze when opening the options menu.
• Fixed cases where the dialog menu was not displayed.
• Fixed mode options being available in the player ship’s back room.
• Fixed player ship slowing down when a menu is opened in a highway.
• Fixed left mouse clicks not closing ability/interact menus in some cases.
• Fixed double clicks on current target not always opening interact menu.
• Fixed stuck scroll-bar when returning to a previous menu.
• Fixed platform trader menu getting stuck with discounts.
• Fixed various other issues with UI and targeting behaviour.
• Fixed dialog or legacy main menu sometimes not showing buttons as selected.
• Fixed pressing ESC/DEL on loading screen returning to startmenu after loading is done.
• Fixed target cycling not working in highways.
• Fixed targets being lost in some cases.
• Fixed mission targets showing group target elements for ships instead of single ship target elements.
• Fixed certain invisible ship/station components being selectable as target.
• Fixed keyboard navigation selecting options from time to time.
• Fixed input actions and states mapped to axis on joystick 3-8 not working.
• Fixed ability to comm from a remote control drone using the “C” shortcut.
• Fixed stuck shift keys when alt-tabbing or changing window focus.
• Fixed station hints not being shown in non-plot games.
• Fixed mission offer locations being displayed when in a drone.
• Fixed weird camera behaviour when flying relative to moving capital ships.
• Fixed main menu font issue in Chinese and Korean.
• Fixed the boost effect not stopping in some situations.
• Fixed missing Ad Sign text in event monitor.
• Fixed wrongly-scaled buy ship menus on detail monitor.
• Fixed wrong message text when standard drones arrive via remote delivery.
• Fixed subtitles changing too fast for long lines.
• Fixed incorrect English voice lines for a Teladi speaker.
• Fixed excessively bright lights on certain objects.
• Fixed disappearing ice asteroids.
• Fixed missing advertising signs.
• Fixed several of the most common causes of crashes.
• Several optimisations resulting in performance improvements.64-bit
The system requirements for the game have always stated that it requires a 64-bit version of Windows, and the 64-bit version of the game is now successfully in general use. This is likely to be the last major version for which a 32-bit executable is available.
Or not.
Good on them to finally deliver a 64-bit executable for a game that required a 64-bit OS.
Anyone think the patches since launch, plus this future expansion, will make the game somewhat enjoyable?
Er…where does one actually GET this expansion?
Gah, nevermind, it’s right there on the Steam page.
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What with Beta 2 of Elite Dangerous coming in a few days and the finished product (supposedly) out by Christmas, I’m gonna stand pat till I hear some glowing reviews.
Hope you’re wearing comfortable shoes.
I might also direct you all to the X3: Terran Conflict thread if you want some X-goodness. Specifically, my interactions with the game begin on page 11. ;-)