Let's talk about masks(Surgical, N-95 and Jim Carrey movies)

Just a thread to separate the covid mask discussion from the covid discussion

ANd I’ll start with:

How about re-using masks?

I have two unused N-95’s. I go out for groceries once per week. My plan is to wear a mask and some gloves (I have a box of gloves) for that trip, then set the mask aside in a little ‘quarantine’ area until the next time I need it. Then I wash my hands and shower.

In theory, the mask should be OK to re-use a week later, right?

Well, that is also an interesting thing too. I did read one report that implied there was no difference in effectiveness between the mask types and suggested anything that said otherwise was just marketing…I’ll try to find that article…

I still have to physically go into work once in a while. I doubt the owners of the establishment I work for would ever shutter their brick and mortar place due to this unless so ordered by DeSantis (although we’re now at reduced hours as if that would help… I do appreciate the extra time at home, however).

We see maybe ten people on a moderately busy day, so it’s not like a grocery store, nonetheless I’m tempted to wear a bandana over my mouth and nose, and gloves if I can find them, in addition to obsessively Windexing every surface.

I took a two week leave when my son’s school closed as that’s pretty clearly covered by FMLA, but after that we’re in even murkier territory wrt what happens next.

Cmon @Nesrie you’re better than this - this sounds like something trump would rant

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You think that’s safe? Touching it? You think that’s what physicians do all day long? It’s false sense of security. It’s dangerous.

It’s not safe for her, clearly. But it may still help others in the room if she coughs.

Do you have the photo where 3 seconds later when she throws it out? Or maybe she just washed her hands and has touched nothing else and is fitting it. Or maybe it’s just some random picture. I dunno.

Nesrie, you’re missing the point. Each person assumes they are contagious. You are protecting others from your own droplets. Not filtering the air you breath in. Do you hear this argument? What is your disagreement with it?

Everything that mask has been absorbing for as long as she has been wearing it is now on her fingers, and everything she touches now has that. Those masks do not clean the air… they trap it and then someone comes along and spreads everything collected on there to something else. You don’t have to take my word for it, ask Dr. Perencevich in the link… a leading epidemiologist.

There does not appear to be any shortage of procedure masks, and these masks are still very helpful in preventing spread through droplets

Not only do you not need them, you shouldn’t wear them, according to infection prevention specialist Eli Perencevich, MD, a professor of medicine and epidemiology at the University of Iowa’s College of Medicine.

infection prevention specialist Eli Perencevich, MD, a professor of medicine and epidemiology at the University of Iowa’s College of Medicine.

“The average healthy person does not need to have a mask, and they shouldn’t be wearing masks,” Dr. Perencevich said. “There’s no evidence that wearing masks on healthy people will protect them. They wear them incorrectly, and they can increase the risk of infection because they’re touching their face more often.”

You are missing the point. WE ASSUME EVERYONE IS NOT HEALTHY, THEY ARE ASYMPTOMATIC CONTAGIOUS.

I dunno. I think it’s recommended single use and for good reason, but is it more dangerous to reuse than not use at all? I think they said on steel and plastic and hard surfaces the virus can last 3+ days (did they say half-life of three days), but on something like fabric, maybe 1? I mean, if you go by that logic, if you had seven masks, you could wear one each day of the week and then rest it for 6 and rewear it - i don’t think that holds, but…

I was casual about my mask disposal when i was in hong kong and my wife showed me the proper way to remove it and wrap and dispose of it and to treat it like it was biohazard, so that’s probably the right thing…

That’s what the social distancing is for.

I didn’t even need my CAP key to get stuck to write that even.

So, we’re not considering the relative costs of all interventions?

Relative costs?

I’ve yet to see any data come from your way aside from a chart with Paint scribbled all over it.

There is an ample supply of procedure masks per my link above. They can be easily made.

Social distancing will result in the unemployment of a few tens of millions of people if pursued at any real duration.

And, again, I’ll add that Asian countries that have weathered this well look at the US and EU aghast at the anti mask sentiment. It’s like how most on this forum would view Trumpers - dogmatic and uniformed. Think about that.