Star Citizen - Chris Roberts, lots of spaceship porn, lots of promises


#3422

On the other hand, if they originally announced the 2017/18 release date, they would very likely never get as many people to pledge, the overall budget would be much smaller and and the game could not push so many envelopes.


#3423

You know what? Release something, a foundation upon which envelope pushing can be built and expanded upon, while building up support and goodwill as you go. I’d be much happier with that.


#3424

Basically what Elite is doing.


#3425

Isn’t this exactly what they’re doing? I mean, you can go and get in your ship and fly it around and fight and do missions and crap right now.


#3426

Is it? I mean what can we actually do in the game right now? I wouldn’t know because the download always stalls, but nothing I’ve seen leads me to believe they even have a solid foundation yet, just the basic framework of one that has yet to be completed. If they were building a house, I’d say maybe the garage was close to ready, but the rest of the house still needs floors, walls and a roof.


#3427

Well, the current feature list in 2.5 is here:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/feature-list

It seems like 3.0 in December will be bringing together more stuff to make the overall world more “real”.


#3428

Yup, nice garage sale. ;)

I’ll feel better once there’s maybe, a living room, or a kitchen, or some other portion of the house is finished.


#3429

You can engage in really wonky FPS combat and look at some freaking sweet ship JPEGs.


#3430

You should probably check out some of the current gameplay videos, of folks playing the actual game at this point.

Do you feel like Elite had more going on when it came out? Does Elite have more going on NOW? I honestly don’t know, as I haven’t followed it in months.


#3431

Sure, can you link me some lengthy gameplay videos of Squadron 42 and I’ll give them a watch.


teasing :-)

#3432

I feel like, with Elite, they had at least the basic foundation and a few rooms built, at the very least, and they’ve been building upon it since then. Say what you want about the game, they’ve handled the expectations game far, far better.


#3433

No. Therefore, the gameplay on offer now is obviously only jpgs of ships. Can’t argue with your logic there.

Ignore all the more freeform SC 2.5 (and, soon, 3.0) gameplay, as that has no value.

On another note, one thing they mentioned at Citizen Con is that they will finally release a version of the launcher that doesn’t need to download gigabytes for every patch. Once that happens, trying out the game over a period of time will become a much more reasonable prospect. No date though. Once can only hope it happens soon.

(Edited because spelling on a phone is hard)

Wendelius


#3434

I don’t think 3.0 will come out in December. I know that’s the plan, but you know how well CIG/RSI deals with plans and dates.


#3435

I sometimes forget how sensitive this topic is. Apologies.


#3436

He. No worries. I missed your “teasing” reading on the phone (old eyes and all that) and it’s been a long day at work. So I answered more directly than I should have. So apologies back at you. :)

That joke is getting a bit long in the tooth though.

Wendelius


#3437

I agree and I admit it is a low-effort cheap shot. I’ll try and leave that at the door in the future.


#3438

Though one should consider that if you only lay the foundation for a Elite-like game it’s very, very hard to then create a triple AAA game based on that.
That’s the main difference here, they are selling a big vision/game and that simply doesn’t work if all you try to release is just a solid foundation, it has to be more for their whole business model to work.
I think people still underestimate the scale of this whole project and how far they have already come in terms of technology. If a AAA-game company would try something similar you can be sure they would have needed at least 5-6 years too (probably with additional time spent on just the tech).
Imo this whole thing just goes to show how much patience is often needed by publishers and that gamers aren’t used to follow a project of this size from the very beginning.


#3439

Well then you end up with Elite. And I don’t think Elite, as good as it is, will ever match scope of SC and push as many envelopes as SC.


#3440

This is fair, I honestly thought they’d be further along by now.


#3441

Rumor has it that they’re having major technical issues with their modified CryEngine. I have no doubt in my mind that they want 3.0 out by the end of the year, but messing with the innards of the CryEngine can create a lot of difficult-to-find-and-fix bugs.