Nintendo Switch

I got my time/money worth out of Odyssey but I have no desire to ever pick it up again. I loved 3D World and the Galaxy games before that. At this point I think different styles of Mario game are just for different people.

For those of you who, like me, switch the A and B button on the Nintendo Switch, do you also switch the X and Y buttons too? Or do you just get used to the fact that those are switched?

Iā€™ve noticed that in the games Iā€™ve played so far, they do the same thing. So in Mario Odyssey X and Y do the same thing, and A and B do the same thing. I guess maybe they had foreseen that this would be an issue with people coming from playing on Xbox controllers for 20 years, so both of the buttons that are switched do the same thing.

But Iā€™m assuming Iā€™ll eventually run into games that have all 4 face buttons do different things.

Switching A and B is aces, it really works. I see A and I see B, and I never look down, I just KNOW that A is at the bottom in the South position and B is in the East position on the right. And so reversing those two is perfect.

Silly modern gamer!

I either switch both button pairs or neither. Otherwise you wind up with the two most common buttons (ie. jump and attack) being opposite from one another and awkward to press simultaneously.

That makes sense.

The other problem I ran into is Iā€™m going to have to learn to ignore the button prompts on the screen sometimes. In the Claw game, it says to press X to make the claw go North, and A to make it go east. Which only makes sense if you donā€™t go by the actual letters, but actually North and East. Then I would automatically think Y and B if I reverse them.

Edit: No wait, Iā€™m confusing myself. If the buttons are reversed, it wouldnā€™t be Y and B. I just donā€™t want to reverse the buttons in that situation. Dā€™oh!

Yeah, thatā€™s an issue. Similarly, some games have prompts that just show the diamond arrangement with one button highlighted, rather than a letter prompt.

I would probably learn to live with those sorts of issues, but then it turns out that button remapping is disabled for some reason on the Split Pad Pro. And I donā€™t want to go back to using joy-cons, or confuse myself by having a different layout in handheld vs tv mode. So I just gave up on remapping in general.

Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack goes live tomorrow.

You should all be aware that thereā€™s a Switch Online outage starting at 7PM EDT today, 10/25. It may last for upward of three hours. When itā€™s done, presumably you can upgrade to Expansion Pack for a prorated price based on whatā€™s left of your current subscription. If you donā€™t have Switch Online, the price for Expansion Pack is $50 a year for a single user or $80 for up to eight ā€œfamilyā€ users.

Also, I may be the only one, but I ordered an N64 controller and it shipped today. They are real and are on the way.

Shin Megami Tensei 5 is something Iā€™m keen to check out - it will be my first SMT game but it sounds like the kind of JRPG that Iā€™d be into, and Iā€™ve been tempted many times to pick up titles in the past for older systems when they were the hot new thing. I believe @ShivaX has enjoyed this franchise in the past on 3DS, for instance, but this will be my own first time in.

I donā€™t 100% know what to expect, Iā€™ll admit, but Iā€™m still pretty excited to have something like this to dig into, and from what I have seen it looks great and folks are digging it - a preview embargo has dropped and while itā€™s frustratingly strict (only the first few hours can be discussed and no footage may be shown) itā€™s a very strong start, from what Iā€™ve gleaned.

Did you play any Persona games? Persona is a SMT spin-off so itā€™s very similar to that in terms of core battling and demon fusing.

I ā€¦ uh, have not, really. I started Persona 5 when it was free and I had just gotten my PS5 and I was enjoying it for the first hour (VERY early) but then my cousin was telling me he had a copy of the superior Persona 5 Royal so he loaned it to me and itā€™s sitting on my shelf right now, unopenedā€¦

Shameful. ;)

Persona 5 is sensational. SMT is a lot more focused with a different kind of feel, as it lacks a lot of that extra school socialisation stuff that Persona added.

SMT is goth pokemon. I love it, but thatā€™s fundamentally what it is.

The biggest different from Persona is that itā€™s more of a dungeon crawl format than Personaā€™s JRPG format. Itā€™s generally crueller, with higher difficulty and more skill checks. Lots of emphasis on elemental weaknesses, such that you can get 1-shotted pretty easily if you arenā€™t specced correctly. So, it really rewards weird min-maxing on breeding, etc, in a way that you can in Persona, but it isnā€™t as necessary. There will definitely be a learning curve as you get acclimated to the magic system and demons since a lot of players will be steeped in them for years, just learning what the various nouns mean, and internalizing which demons will probably have which kinds of abilities.

But itā€™s definitely a top tier JRPG series in general. Strange Journey / Strange Journey Redux is probably the best most recent one? Very excited for SMTV.

They are games that are not meant to be finished in general though Scott: the endgame is always boring, and excepting for 4 and strange journey, near impossible with absurdly insane last bosses. The story premises also is always very intriguing but ends up being stupid. Think JJ Abrams material, with a very Manichean spin. Thatā€™s how those games go, it is their promise since the second game in the series.
Anyway they are good games to enjoy for their mechanics, but they wonā€™t provide you with anything that, say, a dragon quest game will give you aplenty (that RPG series is special for a reason). The combat is fun and very exciting while the monster breeding last.

Thatā€™s a lovely sentiment. Not meant to be finished! I love it. Now I donā€™t have to feel bad about leaving things where it was still good. Like the last Jurassic World movie, I saw it until they got off the island, which was supposedly only the beginning of the movie, but it felt like a good ending to me, so I stopped watching.

Thatā€™s a powerful power, to be free to ignore what others want to impose upon us.
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Haha, that is a very accurate way to put it. I love them, but always run out of steam on SMT games before the end, usually because theyā€™re long enough that I just drift away, or because of a difficulty spike I donā€™t want to grind through. As you say, the plots arent ever anything special, and the end boss is always super difficult by design.

For your first SMT, Iā€™d say the useful version translates to: feel free to pull the cord and quit whenever you start losing interest.

The Genesis is supposed to be working beautifully in the new Online Expansion, but people arenā€™t happy with the quality of the N64 emulation. Issues include:

  • Consistent Input lag
  • Bizarre button layout that canā€™t be remapped
  • Framerate issues
  • Sound delay and garbled music
  • Texture issues
  • Controller Pack error in certain games (Winback, Mario Kart 64) since they didnā€™t emulate any version of it.

ā€œNot meant to be finishedā€ is how I treat most post-SNES JRPGs and Assassinā€™s Creed games! And I still get my moneyā€™s worth.

Well playing online with other people on games that were not meant to deal with online latency is always going to be troublesome. The same thing happened with the NES VC when I was playing with a friend oversea.
SNS shitposters gotta post shit, I guess.

In any case, I have zero issue with the N64 thing: I didnā€™t notice any latency in the inputs, nor any other issue. I wished you could remap the right stick to the 4 right face buttons, but the default control scheme is pretty darn cool for Tsumi to Batsu (I can see how it could be problematic potentially with some other games though).

Just a quick heads up for people like me who treat the Switch like a portable/TV arcade machineā€¦ the entirety of the Capcom Arcade Stadium is $29.99 right now on sale. The three packages are $11.99 each if you donā€™t want all the games at once. They are also now selling individual titles for $1.99 each, but the $30 price for everything is obviously the best deal.